Wednesday, July 31, 2013

Wildfires Terror

Wildfires Terror --- ===
also see California Wildfire Terrorist Theories

Wildfires can be set by arsonists and terrorists, or "accidentally" by people claming to be cooking or staying warm

Jan 17, 2014 nbcbayarea: Registered arsonists, like registered sex offenders, must log in at their city police departments if they have been convicted of arson. The list is maintained by the California Department of Justice, which notes in its annual report that  7,500 properties were destroyed by arson in 2012 compared to 11,400 in 2007. In the same time period, 940 people were arrested statewide on arson charges in 2012, compared to 1,030 in 2007. (PDF)

Human caused
  • 12/6/2017 Skirball fire sparked by homeless casmp illegal cooking fire
  • 10/2017 Sonoma County 2017 fires (debunked but not entirely ruled out suspect could be connected to other fires)  Falsely Pinned on an Immigrant  reports spread by conservative media that his office had arrested an undocumented immigrant for starting the deadly ... “We don't even know if it's arson,” he said at a news conference. “It could have started a million ways.
  • 8/29/2017
    Ponderosa Fire (2017) wikip The Ponderosa Fire was a wildland fire near Forbestown in Butte County, California in the United States. The fire started on August 29, 2017.   The fire was 100% contained on September 23, after it had burned 4,016 acres (16 km2).Man arrested for causing wildfire in Northern California - Reuters  Aug 30, 2017 - (Reuters) - Fire officials have arrested a 29-year-old man they accused of causing a fast-moving wildfire that has destroyed 10 homes andforced the evacuation of about 1,500 residents in Northern California, they said on Wednesday. John Ballenger of the town of Oroville is accused of “recklessly” starting a campfire outside a designated area and allowing it to spread out of control Destructive Ponderosa Fire Started as Illegal Campfire; 1 Person ...
    fox40.com since it was first reported Tuesday, began as an illegal campfire. Officials arrested 29-year-old John Ballenger, of Oroville, Tuesday.  Fire makes first court appearance krctv Sep 1, 2017 arraigned on counts of unlawfully and recklessly causing a fire that burned structures, forest land and inhabited dwellings Man accused of starting Ponderosa Fire pleads not guilty
    www.orovillemr.com/article/NB/20170920/NEWS/170929984 Sep 20, 2017 pleaded not guilty Wednesday to charges related to the blaze January trial set for man accused of starting Ponderosa Fire www.orovillemr.com/article/NB/20171018/NEWS/171019717 Oct 18, 2017
    Judge finds enough evidence to charge man for Ponderosa Fire www.orovillemr.com/article/NB/20171004/NEWS/171009885 Oct 4, 2017 - Following a preliminary hearing, Judge Tamara Mosbarger found there was probable cause to charge John Ballenger, 29, with a felony count of recklessly causing a forest fire and a felony count of recklessly causing a fire that destroyed an inhabited dwelling. Ballenger also faces an arson allegation ...
  • November 29, 2016  Gatlinburg wildfires National Park Service spokeswoman confirmed that fire that killed 3 and burned 15,000 acres in tourist town of Gatlinburg Tennessee were human caused.   Two unnamed juveniles who were filmed tossing lit matches and starting a fire were initially charged with aggravated arson in connection to the fires; however, charges were later dropped investigation blamed some fires on downed power lines
  • Clayton Fire August 13, 2016 just south of Lower Lake in Lake County, California. By August 24, the fire was 98 percent contained and has burned a total of 3,929 acres (15.90 km2) and has destroyed 300 buildings. Damin Pashilk, a construction worker from Clearlake was arrested and facing 17 counts of arson related to the Clayton Fire and other fires.
  • Colorado wildfire may have been started by terrorists - Spero News Jun 20, 2013 - Investigators have ruled out natural causes for Colorado's worst wildfire ever. The Bureau of Land Management would not rule out terrorism as a cause...
  • CAL FIRE Inyo-Mono-San Bernardino Unit: CAL FIRE Arrests ...
    calfirebdu.blogspot.com/2013/06/cal-fire-arrests-yosemite-lakes-park.htmlJun 26, 2013 - Madera - After a rash of suspicious fires, CAL FIRE law enforcement officers Tuesday night arrested a Yosemite Lakes Park couple on suspicion of dozens of arson fires. Kenneth Alan Jackson, 40 and Allison Marie Waterman, 46, both of Coarsegold, were booked into the Madera County Jail for arson.

 "Wildfires caused by arson"

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  • 1978 Agoura-Malibu firestorm firestorm fueled by at least eight significant wildfires in the Los Angeles area on October 23, 1978 15-year-old Agoura youth was arrested for starting the fire, and sentenced to be confined in the California Youth Authority until his 21st birthday.[5] Arson investigators determined that he had used a lit cigarette wrapped in a matchbook to set the fire.[6]

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  • Cape Storm (2017)
  • 2007 Croatian coast fires  June 1 to August 8.   750 fires on the coast from June 1 to August 8. They burned in the Istria County, the Zadar County, the Šibenik-Knin County, the Split-Dalmatia County and the Dubrovnik-Neretva County. The total burned area covered 159,000 hectares.  The police indicted 18 persons and arrested 12 persons for arson. Those arrested included an unnamed 56-year-old suspected of setting seven fires and some shepherds who burned grass for sheep.[2] When fires broke out in the region of Dubrovnik, the local authorities accused the Bosnian town of Trebinje of deliberately setting fires.

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Terrorist Wildfires

Year 2017

12/6/2017 fire 12/12/2017 news  Skirball fire sparked by illegal cooking fire, California officials say  By JULIA JACOBO  Dec 12, 2017, 9:40 PM ET John Cetrino/EPA The Skirball brushfire that caused residents of Los Angeles' affluent Bel-Air neighborhood to flee their multimillion-dollar mansions last week was sparked by an illegal cooking fire, the Los Angeles Fire Department said in a press release Tuesday.  The fire broke out on Dec. 6 just before 5 a.m. at an encampment under Interstate 405 and Sepulveda Boulevard in Los Angeles County, found abandoned,  no arrests have been made in connection with the fire, officials said. The Skirball fire has burned more than 400 acres, destroyed six homes and damaged 12 others in Bel-Air

10/15/2017 Jesus Fabian Gonzales Arrested in Wine Country After Fires Arson  Homeless illegal immigrant Jesus Fabian Gonzalez was arrested for starting a fire "to keep warm" near a bridge in Sonoma County which had just suffered a massive deadly wildfire. He was wearing a trench coat, was carrying a lighter and fire extinguisher,  Sonoma County jail on arson charge and a  misdemeanor drug warrant from Ventura County. Immigration authorities asked to detain him for deportation but Sheriff Rob Giordano refused citing cases where administrative detainers are unconstitutional.   ICE complained of Sonoma County's repeated releases of dangerous criminal aliens  compained it had sought to detain Gonzales four times in the last year and found it "troubling in light of the massive wildfires devastating the region"   InfoWars and Breitbart incorrectly said the arrest was for the massive deadly fires but Giordano said (also incorrrectly) "There’s no indication he’s related to these fires at all" though it is entirely possible and likely somebody like him set a fire this way to make it look like an innocent accident.


How the California Wildfire Was Falsely Pinned on an Immigrant - The ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/20/us/wildfire-immigrant-breitbart.html Oct 20, 2017 - Early this week, Sheriff Rob Giordano of Sonoma County was forced to debunk false reports spread by conservative media that his office had arrested an undocumented immigrant for starting the deadly ... “We don't even know if it's arson,” he said at a news conference. “It could have started a million ways.

Cal Fire continues to probe deadly wildfires despite arson arrest  Oct 17, 2017 - Cal Fire said Tuesday afternoon it continues to investigate each of the deadly wildfires in Northern California despite an arson arrest. ... Crum described him as "a transient out of Sonoma" and said the suspect was "arrested for setting a small fire in a park in Sonoma on Sunday."  arson suspect arrested Sunday is known to local law enforcement and remains in custody.  "Our arson arrest involves someone who is known to the deputies," said Giordano. He went on to say the suspect frequents Maxwell Farms Regional Park in Sonoma and "is known to sleep there."

Were The California Wildfires Deliberately Set?
Posted on October 10, 2017by paulbeckwith Note that the particulates have all appeared in multiple locations within the space of 1 hour. This seems suspicious to me, assuming that the data is correct   In examining Earth Nullschool data on air particulates, it seems that the fires appeared in multiple locations within the space of one hour. This seems suspicious, if the data is accurate.


Year 2016

June 5, 2016 2016 Calabasas fire Firefighters have contained about 80 percent of the 516-acre brush fire in Calabasas, California. Evacuation orders affecting at least 5,000 people in the Los Angeles area are being lifted. The fire started yesterday when a pickup truck "accidentally" struck a power pole. (CNN) (NBC News)


Year 2014

(possible) September 15, 2014 Wildfire razes homes, other buildings in Weed,Calif. (3 injuries, 150 buildings destroyed or damaged including 2 churches, factory)  Los Angeles Times The fire  in Weed, near Mt. Shasta was relatively small, scorching only 375 acres, yet it destroyed or damaged 150 buildings, tearing at some of the town's most important institutions. The fire consumed two churches, a library and a community organization that aided the poor. Machinery at the town's mill was destroyed, but it skirted the downtown. The fire began just south of town. NBCnews: The modest Holy Family Catholic Church was reduced to a pile of charred rubble, with the outlines of a cross visible on a section of wall left standing. There has been no speculation as to whether a terrorist could have set the fire. 3 Injuries Reported on Boles Fire | KDRV There is an Evacuation Order for the community of Weed. An arson investigation has begun today, however, the Siskiyou County Sheriff's Office said that is normal procedure for any fire to help determine the cause.

(deliberate, but motive not proven) September 13, 2014Wildfire threatening Leavenworth WA likely human-caused The U.S. Forest Service is trying to find out who ignited a fire near downtown Leavenworth, which quickly consumed more than 20 acres. It was still burning Sunday evening very close to homes and businesses.Fire investigators are quite sure it was started Saturday night by a person or a group, up on a hillside about a half mile from downtown. Residents suspected carelessness, but nobody speculated it could have been a terrorist attack. On Monday, another fire starting near a town destroyed much of Weed California.

June 28, 2014 Suspected Arson 'Terror' Targets Samaria Village Arab arson suspected in massive Shabbat fire that spread quickly to within feet of homes, comes on heels of several other fires. Series of Israel wildfires suspected of Arab arson warfare: A suspected Arab arson attack was put out at the last moment before it reached the Jewish community of Einav in north-west Samaria. The fire which is suspected to have been set by Arab arsonists in a deliberate attack on the town, spread quickly towards the community due to the oppressive heat and winds. Several other recent fires are suspected as being arson attacks, the largest of which was a massive forest fire that covered Jerusalem in ash and caused residents to be evacuated on Wednesday...fire came a day before two more blazes burst out on Thursday in Jerusalem and Carmiel in the north...arrest of a 20-year-old Arab resident of Abu Ghosh to the east of Jerusalem, suspected of setting a forest in the area on fire Sunday. Police say he confessed to the crime (of course no way the California fires were deliberately set despite arrests of suspects that were let go) Officials complain the arsons are not treated as terrorism, and may be too busy investigated "price tag" attacks against Palestinians

June 28, 2014 Suspected Arson 'Terror' Targets Samaria Village Arab arson suspected in massive Shabbat fire that spread quickly to within feet of homes, comes on heels of several other fires. tags: Wildfires Series of Israel wildfires suspected of Arab arson warfare: A suspected Arab arson attack was put out at the last moment before it reached the Jewish community of Einav in north-west Samaria. The fire which is suspected to have been set by Arab arsonists in a deliberate attack on the town, spread quickly towards the community due to the oppressive heat and winds. Attacks on May 28-29 are also suspected of being arson attacks

May 28-29, 2014: Suspected Arson 'Terror' Targets Samaria Village Arab Several other recent fires are suspected as being arson attacks, the largest of which was a massive forest fire that covered Jerusalem in ash and caused residents to be evacuated on Wednesday.(May 28, 2014) ..fire came a day before two more blazes burst out on Thursday (May 29, 2014) in Jerusalem and Carmiel in the north...arrest of a 20-year-old Arab resident of Abu Ghosh to the east of Jerusalem, suspected of setting a forest in the area on fire Sunday. Police say he confessed to the crime (of course no way the California fires were deliberately set despite arrests of suspects that were let go) Officials complain the arsons are not treated as terrorism, and may be too busy investigated "price tag" attacks against Palestinians.

January 8-12 2014 San Jose Serial Arsonist Sets Dozen Fires in a Week Greater Saint John Baptist Church on E. San Antonio St. in San Jose was damagedby arson, and another fire was set on the property on Sunday January 12. A series of fires have been evidently set by the same person in the Roosevelt, Little Portugal, Wooster and Five Wounds neighborhoods, as well as the eastern parts of the Brookwood Terrace, Naglee Park and Northside neighborhoods near downtown San Jose, California. January 13 was the first time in six days there were no suspicious fires after a string of 12 suspicious fires over five consecutive days.  A string of a dozen intentionally set fires from Jan. 8 to jan. 12, including a five-alarm blaze on Jan. 9 that destroyed a 125,000-square-foot warehouse. Firefighters originally said that the warehouse fire was not connected to the serial arsons. An officer searched through databases of registered arsonists until he found one that looked like a sketch, and Patrick William Brennan was arrested on January 15 after surveillance. The suspect has  2001 conviction for sexually assaulting a minor. He was arrested in the mid 1990s on a misdemeanor charge for setting fire to forest debris in and around the Grand Canyon National Park. He set 16 fires in Santa Clara County's western hills on or near hiking trails in 1999, leading to a year in jail.

Year 2013

Al Qaeda Linked Gaza Terrorist Group Claims Credit for Arizona ... frontpagemag.com/.../al-qaeda-linked-gaza-terrorist-group-claims-credit-...‎ Jul 5, 2013 -We escalated this war to reach its main supporter, America, so that it receives a major share of it, which will destroy their flora and fauna

    Colorado wildfire may have been started by terrorists - Spero News Jun 20, 2013 - Investigators have ruled out natural causes for Colorado's worst wildfire ever. The Bureau of Land Management would not rule out terrorism as a cause...  Terror behind cataclysmic Colorado flames? - WND Jun 23, 2013 - An expert on Islamic terrorism believes the wildfire that ravaged the outskirts of Colorado Springs, killing two people and destroying more than ...  http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/terror-behind-cataclysmic-colorado-flames/
    Jason Salzman: Colorado Wildfire Terrorism? - Huffington Post  Jun 20, 2013 - State Sen. Greg Brophy said yesterday on conservative radio that recent wildfires may have been started by terrorists and that “the Governor and Democrats” have left Colorado vulnerable to terrorist attacks due to their failure to spend millions of dollars on air tankers to fight forest fires.

  1. Expert warns terrorists may be setting wildfires across American West

    washingtonexaminer.com/expert-warns-terrorists...wildfires.../2531949

    Jun 16, 2013 - Colorado's Black Forest fire is barely contained at latest reports and has killed at least two people while consuming hundreds of homes and ...
Year 2012

Homeland Security Warns of Terrorist Wildfire Attacks | Public ...
publicintelligence.net/homeland-security-warns-of-terrorist-wildfire-attac...‎
Jun 2, 2012 - The Federal Bureau of Investigation, Department of Homeland Security and fusion centers around the country are warning that terrorists are ...


wildfiretoday.com/.../al-qaeda-magazine-encourages-forest-fire-...‎
by Bill Gabbert - in 49 Google+ circles
May 2, 2012 - But what about the threat of terrorist-caused wildland fires in our forests, community watersheds and wildland-urban interface? Who's worried ...

Conservative Group Asks if Terrorists Caused Colorado Fires ...
  1. www.motherjones.com/.../conservative-colorado-wildfires-terror...

    Jun 20, 2013 - Authorities are still investigating what started Colorado's record-breaking Black Forest fire. But Rachel Ehrenfeld, the director of the ...

  2. Homeland Security Warns of Terrorist Wildfire Attacks | Public ...

    publicintelligence.net/homeland-security-warns-of-terrorist-wildfire-attac...

    Jun 2, 2012 - The Federal Bureau of Investigation, Department of Homeland Security and fusion centers around the country are warning that terrorists are ...






  1. Al-Qaida magazine urges terrorists to set wildfires in Montana

    missoulian.com/...terrorists...wildfires.../article_d0aabea8-9590-11e1-95...

    May 4, 2012 - Terrorists who want to strike fear in the hearts of Americans would do well to set wildfires in Montana, al-Qaida advises in the most recent issue ...
  2. wildfiretoday.com/.../al-qaeda-magazine-encourages-forest-fire-...

    May 2, 2012 - But what about the threat of terrorist-caused wildland fires in our forests, community watersheds and wildland-urban interface? Who's worried ...

Year 1945

The Japanese targeted forests by sending balloons to set fires or set mines.

May 5, 1945: Japanese Balloon Bomb Kills 6 in Oregon ... Wired May 5, 2010 - 1945 They are the only World War II U.S. combat casualties in the 48 states ...1945:: A Japanese balloon bomb kills six people in rural eastern Oregon. They are the only World War II U.S. combat casualties in the 48 states. A Sunday school teacher, her minister husband and five 13- and 14-year-old students near Klamath Falls. Rev found one which exploded...  Jay Gifford, Edward Engen, Sherman Shoemaker, Dick Patzke and their teacher were all dead, strewn around a one-foot hole. The teacher’s dress was ablaze. Dick Patzke’s sister Joan was severely injured and died minutes later, the Mail Tribune wrote.
The six were victims of Japan’s so-called Fu-Go or fire-balloon campaign. Carried aloft by 19,000 cubic feet of hydrogen and borne eastward by the jet stream, the balloons were designed to travel across the Pacific to North America, where they would drop incendiary devices or anti-personnel explosives... he Japanese released an estimated 9,000 fire balloons. At least 342 reached the United States. Some drifted as far as Nebraska. Some were shot down.  One hit a power line and temporarily blacked out the nuclear-weapons plant at Hanford, Washington. But the only known casualties from the 9,000 balllons — and the only combat deaths from any cause on the U.S. mainland — were the five kids and their Sunday school teacher going to a picnic.

Tuesday, July 30, 2013

Florida Blue Rhino Propane Plant Blows Up, Capitalists, Not Terrorists To Blame

Florida Blue Rhino Propane Plant Blows Up, Not Terrorism
Timeline Of Terror and Not Terrorism

Monday July 29, 2013 Explosions destroy the Blue Rhino propane refilling gas plant in Tavares Florida. At least 8 were injured, five critically as homes as far as 10 miles away were rocked by the explosions. Authorities state there was nothing to indicate a crime had been committed.


There is a war in open sight, but everybody thinks it is just an epidemic of accidents, crimes and mental illness. No way this was just  an accident, and trolls who say it was and accident caused by the government probably know who did it and why. Federal authorities have already stated there is absolutely "nothing to indicate a crime was committed" besides the obvious hunch.


    1. New York Daily News‎ - by David Boroff‎ - 4 days ago
      At least eight injured, five critically, as explosions rock Blue Rhino propane gas plant in Florida 
      A series of massive explosions blew the roof off the Blue Rhino gas plant in Tavares, Fla., Monday night. Eight workers were left injured, four of whom were in critical condition.

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      BY DAVID BOROFF / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

      PUBLISHED: TUESDAY, JULY 30, 2013, 1:48 AM
      TYLER BOYLSTON/DEMOTIX/CORBIS

      Fire from the Blue Rhino propane plant explosions lights up the night sky on Monday in central Florida.
      At least eight people were injured, including five critically, as a series of explosions rocked a central Florida propane gas plant on Monday night, sending local residents who believed "bombs are going off" into a panic.

      All the workers at the Blue Rhino propane plant in Tavares, Fla., were accounted for early Tuesday.




      Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/15-missing-florida-explosions-article-1.1412355#ixzz2cSLiRSkS

    2. CNN‎ - 3 days ago

  1. Fire marshal: No crime committed in Blue Rhino plant explosion ...

    www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/.../explosions_at_blue_r

    3 days ago - Federal and state investigators say there is nothing to indicate a crime was committed, causing an explosion at the Blue Rhino gas plant in ...

    Federal and state investigators say there is nothing to indicate a crime was committed, causing an explosion at the Blue Rhino gas plant in Tavares.
    A representative with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, along with another from the State Fire Marshall’s Office addressed the media Wednesday afternoon.
    ATF Assistant Special Agent in Charge Trevor Velinor said the agency was there because of the public safety issued caused by Monday night’s explosion at the plant on CR 448.
    Velinor said 25 investigators, who are part of the same national response team that traveled to the fertilizer explosion in Texas in April, were activated to help with response in Tavares.
    Around 10:30 p.m. Monday, 53,000 20-pound propane tanks for gas grills exploded into the area, catapulting even off the plant's property.One of the tanks damaged a nearby home.
    Twenty-four employees were inside when the fire started late Monday night.
    Eight workers were hospitalized, four with severe burns.
    .. crews inspected about 5 acres of badly burn areas and interview teams met with employees of the plant, including those that were injured...
    “Nothing was uncovered that would indicate a crime was committed,” Ball said, adding that the site inspection would probably finish Wednesday.


  2. After Blue Rhino explosion, neighbors don't want a new plant | Bay ...

    www.baynews9.com/content/news/.../8/.../after_blue_rhino_exp.html

    2 days ago - Some Lake County residents near the Blue Rhino gas plant say they don't want the company to rebuild near their homes after Monday's ...

  3. Blue Rhino gas explosion draws Lake County together ...

    www.orlandosentinel.com › Your Local News › Breaking News

    4 days ago - Lake County's reaction to the Blue Rhino gas explosion shows that residents will pour out their beer and form a human bucket brigade if they ...

  4. VIDEO: Blue Rhino Propane Factory EXPLOSION Fire, July 29th ...

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XiwxRxrJdQ

    4 days ago - Uploaded by GittyBrothers
    Breaking: Massive Florida Propane Explosion - 7/29/13 7/29/13 - Lake County, Florida-- Emergency officials ...

  5. Blue Rhino Propane Factory Explosion Florida | Florida ... - YouTube

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_rgaFzBbtw

    4 days ago - Uploaded by News Daily HD
    29th July 2013 - Close Up of Massive Explosions at Florida Gas Plant | Propane Factory Explosion Florida ...

  6. Blue Rhino employee considers lawsuit after explosions - WESH.com

    www.wesh.com/news/central.../blue-rhino...explosions/-/.../-/index.html

    3 days ago - At least one employee who was involved in the Blue Rhino gas explosionis considering a lawsuit.

  7. ATF begins investigation of Blue Rhino propane explosions in Tavares

    www.wesh.com/news/...of-blue-rhino...explosions.../-/index.html

    3 days ago - Investigators are now able to go deep into the Blue Rhino gas plant in Tavares after it was deemed safe by the Occupational Safety and Health ...





Eric Kris • 14 minutes ago −
But there is absolutely 0 evidence to suggest a terror attack. People who suggest it as a possibility should adjust their tin foil hats

Jacob Berry • 9 hours ago
This year has not been a good year for Quality Assurance programs in chemical and gas facilities...... And fertilizer plants too.
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ThisJustIn4U Jacob Berry • 8 hours ago −
But, hey, we wouldn't want the pesky government interfering with these companies' freedom to take these chances. Besides, the free market will correct itself: When enough employees and customers die, these companies will go out of business and all will be right with the world.
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Quasi Hedron ThisJustIn4U • 8 hours ago
And even the airplane manufacturers know that some of the planes will fall out of the air and crash. Same for cars, and boats and even knife manufacturers. Everything is a two edged sword.

The question is always, is it intentional or an accident. Hence, the investigations. News reporters always sensationalize the facts, to satisfy the public's greed for blood and horror.

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patandfritz Jacob Berry • 9 hours ago −
I am not beyond believing there is more here than meets the eye. How about terrorists practicing? Of course the government and media will never admit to that. I just think it is odd so many of these things like this, tanker trucks crashing into bridges, horrible explosions and fires such as in Texas. Come on! Am I the only one who thinks it is a little to weird??
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440sixpack patandfritz • 8 hours ago
Some times a rock is just a rock.
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thatguydownsouth 440sixpack • 2 hours ago
Yes, but sometimes there just arent enough rocks.
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resident patandfritz • 8 hours ago
this was no terrorist attack, I could see the fire from crossed the lake, hear and feel the explosions, please be mindful there are at least 15 people are unaccounted for, possibly fatal...53000 rhino little blue tanks ...if one sparks they could all eventually blow...and the fire has died down some but there are still intermitent explosions every so often...the big storage tanks DID NOT blow...
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Brutus2100 patandfritz • 25 minutes ago
Or it could be that Mother Nature is causing people to make these mistakes so humans begin to recognize the dangers associated with particular chemicals, and the destruction that results from endless and mindless manipulation of natural elements. Natural selection is accelerating, just maybe.

Before you start seeing goblins around every corner, stop and think just how many mundane activities involve flammables, or things which are produced via processes which involve flammables. It's really startling. At every turn, there are oxygen tanks, propane tanks, gasoline tanks, household chemicals, etc. The law of averages dictates that sooner or later, accidents will happen.
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levi patandfritz • 38 minutes ago
We do seem to have more ragheads in the country. It could be the work of radical moslims.

alsutton patandfritz • 2 hours ago −
The government and the media are not colluding together to "hide" terrorist attacks - and I'm not saying this incident is in fact an attack. That's tin-foil hat stuff. The government, maybe they would downplay it a little, but there's no way to hide that type of thing because there will always be people blowing the whistle or leaking information. And as far as the media goes, they would jump all over this if it were a terrorist attack because it would be a "juicy" story. That's what the media is there for; to keep people informed and to keep the government in check. Granted, they exaggerate here and there, but combine that with the government's downplaying of the given situation and somewhere in the middle you have the truth.
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Tom patandfritz • 3 hours ago
All you need now is evidence.
notus Jacob Berry • 8 hours ago −
A few explosions in the US is nothing compared to what countries where your government has meddled has to suffer or are suffering. So please enjoy some more explosions and calamities.
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Moon Flower Jacob Berry • 7 hours ago −
bless all family's and workers involved. At this point in time it should just simply be, OMG that's awful! How can we help these ppl and show support and love. Time to point fingers and safety whatever's we wrong or neglect afterwards. Not now. It won't undo what's done but caring makes the difference for now. Not the how of it. We need to apply same determination to helping our neighbors, our community our ppl hit hardest. Instead of speculating
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Coyolxauhqui • 9 hours ago
is it me or have there been more plant explosions and mass transit accidents than usual this year?

Most of all of these could easily have been terrorism staged as accidents, crimes or mental illness. Like multiple people backing up over mothers with baby carriages. Or people murdered in random shootings and stabbings with no motive. Child kidnapped in bunker from school bus. Mall shootings. Santa Monica shooter. Lots of people acting like mideast terrorist with no mideast, religion or terrorist connections, but their actions are the connection. Brides killed in limousine and power boat. These are not accidents. But Americans are too stupid to figure this out. All the trolls who say "I pray for the victims but these are the fault of capitalists and not enough regulation" are probably the same people who want you to think these are accidents. No need for the NSA when the pro-jihad anti-capitalist agents are out in plain sight on comment boards.

'm aware of that. But if the media tends to ignore such incidents for a while than suddenly starts reporting every single one, it gives the illusion that the frequency of the incidents has gone up.

Necole Ivey Ashton Jackson • 8 hours ago −
Maybe. Or maybe it was an accident. Everyone could at least let the smoke settle before they turn this into a debate about big Government, big business, democrats, republicans, terrorist, conspiracies. There are still people missing. Real people, who have other real people who are concerned about them.
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This guy sounds like he is an Al Qaeda disinformation agent who wants you to be sure that it is ridiculous to blame this on Al Qaeda and instead of rampant greedy capitalists:

CNN Jay David comments: Just another typical day in Florida, a state with few environmental safety laws and / or little safety enforcement. An how convenient it is that all safety violations and unsafe practices can now be blamed on "terrorists", leaving the corporation that owned this unsafe facility off the hook financially. Al Qaeda is the best thing that every happened to Wall Street.