Thursday, March 16, 2017

William Payne Glasgow Blackout Driver Kills Two Women Charges Dropped

William Payne Glasgow Blackout Driver Kills Two Women Charges Dropped --- ===
http://ninjapundit.blogspot.com/2017/03/william-payne-blackout-driver-kills-two.html

One of two similar cases with 2014 Glasgow bin lorry crash also around Christmas in same town blamed on driver blackout who escaped prosecution, and hiding medical history. Only rumors it might not be an accident and medical is not the real reason. 

December 17 2010 crash: caused by medical blackout killed: 2 injured: 1 William Payne Glasgow Blackout Driver Kills Two Women Charges Dropped  Driver William Payne who is driving illegally because he lacks insurance was seen to be driving a "ridiculous speed" and engine revving when he claims he just "blacked out" and ran over two students Mhairi Convy, 18, and Laura Stewart, 20 on the sidewalk. a fatal accident inquiry heard he had a history of blacking out, though  he has no medical history of blackouts. He was charged with causing death by driving while uninsured but the charges were dropped.


 Glasgow blackout hit 2 girls driver 'had no blackout history' Herald Scotland, 13 February 2014,  Retrieved 8 February 2015  MOTORIST who killed two students told a doctor he had no history of blackouts, a fatal accident inquiry has been told.  William Payne was driving his Range Rover down North Hanover Street in Glasgow when he collided with victims Mhairi Convy, 18, and Laura Stewart, 20, on December 17 2010.  He also injured Mark Hopwood, 39, who was thrown on to the road and survived. Dr Gordon Duff, who carried out a medical examination on Mr Payne in July 2010, gave evidence at the Glasgow Sheriff Court hearing yesterday into the deaths of the Glasgow College of Commerce students.  witness Gary McGinley had told the hearing that after finding their twisted bodies, he had approached the driver in the car....found him "just facing ahead, pan faced, eyes fixed. "I asked, 'You okay? You okay, pal?' No response from him. "He looked physically okay, he was sitting back in the vehicle and the window was open." He had earlier described how he had seen the car being driven at "ridiculous speed" with its engine revving on the pavement.Similar to fatal  2014 Glasgow Scotland bin lorry crash also blamed on medical blackout Driver has no insurance - driving illegally

Crash scene

Mhairi Convy and Laura Stewart

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2014 Glasgow bin lorry crash - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Glasgow_bin_lorry_crash
On 22 December 2014 a bin lorry collided with pedestrians in the city centre of Glasgow, ..... Jump up ^ BBC News GLASGOW & WEST SCOTLAND, 5 November 2013 Mhairi Convy and Laura Stewart road deaths case dropped; Jump up ...

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Mhairi Convy and Laura Stewart road deaths case dropped - BBC News
www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-24821758
Nov 5, 2013 - A driver who was accused of killing two students in Glasgow while driving ... Image caption Mhairi Convy (left) and Laura Stewart were both ... William Payne was charged with causing the deaths of Mhairi Convy, 18, and ...

Driver whose car killed Mhairi Convy and Laura Stewart branded reckless www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-27886589 Jun 17, 2014 - William Payne appeared as a witness at an inquiry into the deaths of Mhairi Convy, 18, and Laura Stewart, 20, in Glasgow on 17 December ...

Mums of tragic girls killed by unconscious driver in Glasgow tragedy tell of anger at delays into crash probe  www.dailyrecord.co.uk › News › Scottish News › Car crashes
Jan 11, 2015 - Laura Stewart and Mhairi Convy were mown down and killed after a driver collapsed at the wheel – and their mums understand the terrible, sudden loss endured by the families of victims of the George Square tragedy.  United in grief once more in the wake of the Glasgow bin lorry horror, the families of Laura and Mhairi yesterday reached out to the relatives of the victims of the crash Laura, 20, from Cumbernauld, and Mhairi, 18, from Lennoxtown, died after William Payne’s Range Rover veered on to the kerb at North Hanover Street, close to Buchanan Galleries, in Glasgow and ploughed into them. had been shopping on December 17, 2010, and were waiting at pedestrian lights when they were hit.  Payne, 54, of Bishopbriggs, near Glasgow, was later charged with causing death by driving while uninsured but the charges were dropped.  However, a fatal accident inquiry heard he had a history of blacking out

Driver involved in death of two students has charges dropped ...
www.telegraph.co.uk › News
Nov 5, 2013 - William Payne, 53, was charged with causing the deaths of 18-year-old Mhairi Convy and 20-year-old Laura Stewart after his Range Rover ...

Blackout driver who killed two women after Range Rover mounted ...
www.mirror.co.uk › News › UK News › Car crashes
Mar 15, 2015 - Prosecutors decided not to pursue a criminal case against William Payne more than four years after the crash that killed Mhairi Convy, 18, and ...

Families of girls killed by blackout driver say they will consider private ...
www.eveningtimes.co.uk/.../14137084.Family_of_girl_killed_by_blackout_driver_w...
Dec 10, 2015 - Laura Stewart, 18, and Mhairi Convy, 20, were knocked down and killed when driver William Payne passed out at the wheel of his 4x4 in ...

William Payne said he was 'unwell' after fatal Buchanan Galleries crash
https://stv.tv/.../263725-william-payne-said-he-was-unwell-after-fatal-buchanan-galler...
Feb 11, 2014 - Fatal crash driver said he was 'unwell' after ploughing into women. Mhairi Convy and Laura Stewart died after being hit by a 4x4 near ...

Family of students killed by driver who passed out at wheel blast court ...
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/.../family-of-students-killed-by-driver-who-passed-out-...Dec 9, 2016 - William Payne will no longer face prosecution over the deaths of Mhairi Convy, 18, and Laura Stewart, 20, by driving uninsured in Glasgow on ...

Fatal Accident Inquiry into the deaths of Mhairi Convy and ... - Judgment
https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=95eab5a6-8980...
The cause of the death of Mhairi Samantha Convy was: ... For the Consultant who saw William Payne at Stobhill Hospital on 13 January 2009 at a follow-up ...

PressReader - The Herald: 2016-09-14 - Families of crash victims in ...
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-herald/20160914/281539405415932Sep 14, 2016 - The vehicle veered out of control, killing six pedestrians in Queen ... William Payne, lodged by the families of friends Mhairi Convy, 18, and ...



http://chrisspivey.org/if-it-looks-like-a-duck/
whilst the reasons for the mass increase in acid attacks are pretty straightforward and transparent the same cannot be said for the Glasgow Bin-Lorry-Bollox.

However, it has been quite an enlightening week this week thus far and to explain why we need to go back to a fake event that occurred in Glasgow in 2010.

Now I did cover this event in Behind the Flag Part 2 – my second installment of the Glasgow Bin-Lorry-Bollox.

And if memory serves a lot of readers were unconvinced that the alleged accident was nothing more than an… Errr… Accident:

However, I still believe wholeheartedly that it wasn’t an accident. Moreover, I feel it is now time to pay the hoax a revisit.

Now, according to the MSM 20 year old Laura Stewart was allegedly killed along with her friend 18 year old Mhairi Convy when a Range Rover driven by a mush named William Payne ran them over in Glasgow city centre.

The following is from from the BBC in June 2014, some three and a half years following the ‘accident’ and I have highlighted in yellow what I consider to be the important bits:

A man whose car mounted a pavement in Glasgow killing two students has been accused of lying and being reckless for not disclosing he suffered blackouts.

William Payne appeared as a witness at an inquiry into the deaths of Mhairi Convy, 18, and Laura Stewart, 20, in Glasgow on 17 December 2010.

The 53-year-old refused to answer some questions after being advised he did not have to if it may incriminate him.

A previous criminal case against Mr Payne was dropped by the Crown.

Following this, the fatal accident inquiry was then arranged to look at the circumstances of the deaths of Ms Convy and Ms Stewart....faced a series of questions from Dorothy Bain – the QC representing the families of the two women – but he refused to answer many of them.

Ms Bain still quizzed him on the renewal of an HGV licence in July 2010 – five months before the accident. The QC said the “no” box was ticked on a document asking if Mr Payne had suffered any blackouts in the last five years.

However, the court heard a number of claims Mr Payne had collapsed during that time – including once while taking his dog to the vet.

Ms Bain accused Mr Payne of being “totally and utterly unreliable about his medical history”.

She went on: “If you had answered ‘yes’ (on the document), you would not have been allowed to drive.

“You were reckless to the safety of other people using the streets because as we have seen today you are just looking out for number one.

“That should be your mantra – number one, that is what matters.”

Mr Payne replied: “I don’t want to answer that.”

The QC also said: “Your selfishness has taken the lives of two young women. What more serious thing has happened to you.

“Two young women perfectly innocently going out doing their Christmas shopping.

“You could have prevented that by telling the truth.”

Mr Payne again replied he could not answer what was put to him.

The QC later referred to Mr Payne’s police interview after the accident in which he claimed he was “sorry”.

Ms Bain said to Mr Payne: “You could have been stopped driving in the July. Do you know what would have happened?
 Source  QC representing the two families was also the QC who represented the Morton ‘family’ in the Bin-Lorry-Bollox at the inquiry held just a couple of months ago.

And that of course would be the why the line of questioning put to the drivers, Willie Pain and Harry O Clarke by Dotty Bain was more or less the same in both inquiries

The driver of the bin lorry that careered out of control killing six people in Glasgow has refused his ‘last chance’ to say sorry to the victims’ families for the ‘lies he told about his health’.

Harry Clarke, 58, was told to ‘think of someone other than himself’ and imagine his daughter had died in the tragedy after repeatedly evading questions on his 30-year history of ill health.

Lawyers for victims’ families blamed the driver for the crash by failing to tell doctors and employers about suffering from blackouts, dizzy spells and fainting before the December 22 tragedy.

Dorothy Bain QC, representing the family of victim Jacqueline Morton, accused him of telling a ‘pack of lies’ on job applications and DVLA forms in order to keep his HGV licence at the inquiry today.

The inquiry is being held after prosecutors said there was no evidence to warrant criminal proceedings.

It will focus on driver Mr Clarke’s medical background, his fitness to hold a licence and his employment record and training.

He fell unconscious at the wheel, and was only diagnosed with heart problems after the crash.Source

Ms Bain also referred to a blackout the driver had at the wheel of a First Bus, saying: ‘If you had told the truth in 2010, there is every likelihood the six innocent people who lost their lives would still be here today.’

‘You took a chance and it’s taken the lives of six innocent people. The difference between you and them is that you had a choice and they didn’t. They had no chance.’

Ms Bain said the blackout only came to light in February when a professor checked his medical records. Source....

In fact Willie Pain had been charged in November 2012 with causing the deaths of Stewart & Convy whilst driving without insurance but if Pain had no insurance ... However, that still isn’t the half of it, since the ‘accident’ happened right before Christmas and in the same area as the Bin-Lorry-Bollox and the Clutha Hoax.

And it is worth bearing in mind that Glasgow is a big city; it isn’t a little town.