Thursday, September 29, 2016

Hoboken Train Crash Likely Not Deliberate Terrorism

Hoboken Train Crash Likely Not Deliberate Terrorism --- ===

September 29, 2016 Hoboken Train Crash Likely Not Deliberate Terrorism Commuter train without explanation suddenly throttles up as it is about to stop and crashes into the train station, killing a woman on the platform and injuring scores. Authorities immediately rule out any connection to terrorism or deliberate crash. There is no problem with train, tracks or the driver.  The drive who cooperates with authorities says he remembers approaching at 10 mph, but cannot remember anything while the throttles were manually pushed forward and train speeded up to 20 mph and brakes hit at the last instant before the crash. As deliberate operation has been ruled out there is no possible or obvious explanation for how the train could have speeded up.

Media says driver was released from hospital. Even the White House announced no links to terrorism, he is average old white guy American. Investigators found nothing pointing to a deliberate crash. Train driver says that he remembers approaching at normal 10 mph, then doesn't remember anything until after the crash. Investigators find that for some reason the throttle was increased to half speed causing the train to speed up before the brakes were applied by the driver at the last instant. The only way for the throttle to increase is for the driver to deliberately speed up the train.

U.S. investigators will look at whether the fatal NJ Transit train crash was a terrorist act but no signs point to that being a

But the most obvious explanation is the the driver for some reason deliberately drove into the station and did not hit the brakes, assuming nothing was wrong with brakes, driver, or tracks. Same as Germanwings, and Amtrack too-fast curve. Authorities never admit this is most obvious cause of a crash.

there is  no reason to believe this crash was a deliberate act (ridiculous, of course there is lot s of reason to believe...) 
 "I think a deliberate act has been ruled out, based on what we know.”.
"agency officials believe it was likely not a deliberate act of terrorism."

*Sources



Why do authorities not speculate that the driver deliberately moved the throttle to accelerate and then hit the brake?

Oct 6  Hoboken train was traveling twice the speed limit when it crashed ...
www.nj.com/.../nj_transit_train_that_crashed_in_hoboken_was_going.html
NJ.com The throttle had been in the idle position but moved to a No. 4 position as the trainaccelerated. Just before the crash, the throttle returned to the ...

Oct 6  New Jersey train was going twice the speed limit before it crashed - LA ...
www.latimes.com/.../la-na-new-jersey-train-crash-20161006-snap-...
Los Angeles Times -train sped up and was going twice the 10 mph speed limit just before it crashed  federal investigators said Thursday.  The train's engineer hit the emergency brake less than a second before the train slammed into a bumping post at the end of the rail line, went airborne and hurtled into the station's waiting area, according to information released by the National Transportation Safety Board.... from a data recorder and video. the train was traveling at 8 mph and the throttle was in the idle position less ...train was traveling at 8 mph and the throttle was in the idle position less than a minute before the Sept. 29 crash. Approximately 38 seconds before the crash, the throttle was increased and reached a maximum of about 21 mph, the agency said. The throttle went back to idle and the engineer hit the emergency brake less than a second before the crash,  New Jersey Transit implemented a new rule...  The conductor must join the engineer whenever a train pulls into Hoboken Terminal

Oct 6 NJ Transit Train in Deadly Crash Hit Hoboken Platform at 21 MPH ...
www.nbcnews.com/.../nj-transit-train-deadly-crash-hit-hoboken-platfo...
NBCNews.com  A few moments later — 38 seconds before impact — the train's throttle was moved from idle to a position that caused it to pick up speed.

Sept 30  No evidence of terrorism in Hoboken train crash, White House says ...
www.nj.com/.../white_house_no_evidence_of_terrorism_in_hoboken_tr.html
NJ.com U.S. investigators will look at whether the fatal NJ Transit train crash was a terrorist act but no signs point to that being a ...

https://a.msn.com/r/2/BBx7aam Throttle was increased from idle to half speed, sped up to 20 mph, brake hit only just before crash, no explanation, now 2nd crew has to sit next to driver when stopping at station. No mention of deliberate crash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miGgEhWdwb0  New jersey governor is among those saying there was nothing intentional .

Governor Chris Christie Gives Update On NJ Train Crash | MSNBC
no reason to suspect intentional was there a medical event?

Four Nines Fine1 week ago
Islam had NOTHING to do with this!

Chris christie is probably responsible for this train wreck just like the bridge gate scandal
Twostones001 week ago
This is what happens when Transportation workers are subject to irregular work rest cycles.  The fall asleep and the accident occurs.  Fatigue is a real factor in the transportation industries.

rey82rey821 week ago
Our infrastructure is crumbling.

Darth Mal6 days ago
Engineer was texting.

twelge151 week ago
Let's be sure Christie didn't shut down that train track lane first.

Great Fish1 week ago
MSNBC really wants the narrative NO TERRORISM.  Would cast weakness light on Obama their hero and fearful leader....

Another good ol False Flag graciously offered by your gov.

N.J. Train Crash 'Isn’t A Deliberate Act' | MSNBC they are going to look at conductor, people are worried about terrorism  Published on Sep 29, 2016
Witnesses said that the N.J. train jumped the tracks, went through the wall and crashed into the waiting area in Hoboken terminal. Law enforcements said that this "is not a deliberate act" and that it was an accident. The cause of the crash is still unknown, but this is a “mass casualty situation.” What about heart attack (the train throttle was manually pushed to accelerate, then brake was hit)

astek1 week ago
Meanwhile on Fox: Muslim hacker derails train
 Polish teen derails tram after hacking train network • The Register

Siouxsi Sioux1 week ago
YOU SHOULDN'T SAY THIS WASN'T A DELIBERATE ACT. THIS JUST OCCURED. LIBERAL'S ALWAYS TRY TO COVER EVERY POTENTIAL TERROR SITUATION SO AMERICA IS KEPT IN THE DARK. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED. IRRESPONSIBLE NEWS IS ANOTHER REASON YOUR RATINGS ARE IN THE BASEMENT.

ISLAMIC MUSLIM TERRORIST

Riiiight... Accident can be firmly concluded before the investigators have even arrived at the site because "nothing points to a deliberate act"! Oh, sure... God! I'm so tired of these idiots trying to control and manipulate people by lies, falsehoods and unfounded claims! Of course there's something "pointing to a deliberate act", fools! First and foremost your own denial there of. Nobody would ever make such an inane claim before any investigation unless circumstances already had made the thought of a deliberate act enter your mind, gdi!

Great Fish1 week ago
Nobody trusts the LIB Press....they will lie to keep DEMS in power. FBI waited months to publish real reason the PULSE CLUB killinugs were terrorism

Was The Hoboken Train Crash Terrorism? People Are Wondering ...
https://www.bustle.com/.../186768-was-the-hoboken-train-crash-terrorism-people-are-...
  On Thursday morning a NJ Transit commuter train crashed into a ... No initial signsHoboken train crash was terror related or deliberate act ...

Massive Train Crash Hoboken NJ | Culture of Life News https://emsnews.wordpress.com/2016/09/29/massive-train-crash-hoboken-nj/
. I am betting on 'terror attack' considering that ISIS and others said they ... it has to be deliberate, that is, the train was deliberately sped up to ...

No evidence of terrorism in Hoboken train crash, White House says ...
www.nj.com/.../white_house_no_evidence_of_terrorism_in_hoboken_tr.html
NJ.com4 days ago - WASHINGTON — U.S. investigators will look at whether the fatal NJ Transit train crash was a terrorist act but no signs point to that being a ...

Hoboken Train Crash Causes Mass Destruction and Injuries
www.clutchmagonline.com/.../hoboken-train-crash-causes-mass-destruction-an...
Clutch Law enforcement officials said there are no initial signs that the accident was terror related or a deliberate act, but they stressed it was very early in the investigation.
Hoboken Crash Train Engineer Doesn't Recall Accident
People Magazine‎ - 1 day agoHoboken Train Engineer Has No Memory of Deadly Crash, Officials Say. 0SHARES. Reprint.

N.J. Transit Engineer Has No Memory of Fatal Train Crash, Officials Say
New York Times‎ - 2 days ago
Engineer Doesn't Recall Train's Speed Before Deadly Crash: NTSB
NBC New York‎ - 2 days agoMore news for hoboken crash engineer no recall

Train engineer doesn't know what caused Hoboken crash, NTSB says ...
www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2016/.../ntsb_hoboken_train_crash_sunday.html
NJ.com2 days ago - HOBOKEN — The engineer in Thursday's fatal train crash in ... But, she said, that was the last the engineer could recall about the accident, before he woke ... Dinh-Zarr said the conductor on board told investigators he did not ...

(Why do we assume he "lost control" of the train? ) Expert On Hoboken Crash: 'Why Didn't He Have Control Of The Train ... WCBS‑TV  CBS2's Chris Wragge and Mary Calvi interview railroad engineering expert Gus ... Expert On Hoboken Crash: 'Why Didn't He Have Control Of The Train? ... Recall the derailment in 2013 up in Spuyten Duyvel, where the rail engineer ... brakes, it's not going to stop the train because the train is out of control.

NJ Transit Engineer Says He Doesn't Remember Fatal Hoboken Crash
gothamist.com/2016/10/03/hoboken_crash_engineer.php
Gothamist1 day ago - The engineer also told investigators that he recalls blowing the horn, ... The Hobokentracks are not equipped with Positive Train Control (PTC), ...

Engineer Doesn't Recall Train's Speed Before Deadly Crash: NTSB ...
www.nbcnewyork.com/.../NTSB-Hoboken-Train-Crash-Broken-Data-Recorder...
WNBC2 days ago - Engineer Doesn't Recall Train's Speed Before Deadly Crash: NTSB ... questions about the Hoboken Terminal crash during a press conference held on Sept. ... "The engineer says he hasno memory of the accident," she said.

NJ Transit Engineer Has No Memory of Fatal Train Crash, Officials Say
www.nytimes.com/.../nj-transit-engineer-has-no-memory-of-fatal-t...
The New York Times2 days ago - The engineer, Thomas Gallagher, also told investigators that the train was traveling about 10 miles an hour when it entered Hoboken Terminal, ...
The engineer at the helm of a train that smashed into a New Jersey commuter rail terminal, killing a woman and injuring more than 100 others, told federal investigators he was going only 10 mph as he approached the station, but has has no memory of the crash, the National Transportation Safety Board said.  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/03/new-jersey-train-engineer-at-center-deadly-crash-says-cant-remember-incident.html (are they excluding the possibility of deliberate crash??)   old investigators that he was fully rested and that the train was operating properly Thursday morning remembered blowing the train's horn and looking at the speedometer as he pulled into the station and said the train was going 10 mph, Dinh-Zarr said. But, Gallagher told the investigators that he had no memory of the crash and only remembered waking up on the floor of the engineer's cab, she said. He runs his train into a wall and does not remember????  Wondering, if this joker is related to the Clintons.  They don't remember nothing either. Hulamula  Why not, the engineer in the Philly crash got away with playing dumb and stupid! engineer should say that he did not intend to crash...he was merely being "extremely careless". It worked for Mrs. Bill Clinton, and even the FBI should give him a similar pass.

Hoboken train crash: Event recorder recovered - CNN.com
www.cnn.com/2016/09/30/us/new-jersey-hoboken-train-crash/index.html
CNN1 day ago - Train crashes in Hoboken, New Jersey 01:06 ... The NTSB also will want to interview two other members of the train's crew: a conductor and a ...

Investigators interview engineer of crashed New Jersey train | Reuters
www.reuters.com/article/us-new-jersey-traincrash-idUSKCN1213IS
Reuters7 hours ago - Investigators had not previously been able to interview the driver, Thomas ... Trainservice remained suspended in and out of the Hoboken ...


Hoboken Crash: Feds Begin Analyzing Recorder Data, Will Interview ...
www.nbcnews.com/.../hoboken-crash-feds-begin-analyzing-recorder-d.
NBCNews.com1 day ago - NJ train crash: Feds focus investigation on engineer, cameras, black box 2: ... involved in the crash: the engineer, a conductor and a brakeman.

Investigators interview train operator in Hoboken accident - NewsWorks
www.newsworks.org/index.php/local/new-jersey/97674-hoboken
1 day ago - Federal investigators trying to figure out the cause of the deadly rail crash at the Hobokenstation questioned the engineer Friday and hoped to ...

NTSB Has yet to Interview Injured Engineer in Deadly Crash - ABC ...
abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fatal-train-crash-investigators-seek-answers-424666671 day ago - NTSB Has yet to Interview Injured Engineer in Deadly Crash. ... engineer in the deadlyHoboken train crash because of his injuries Friday and ... The engineer, conductor and brakeman "have been very cooperative," she said.

Barstool Sports Interview With Jay Danahy, Passenger On The ...
www.barstoolsports.com/.../barstool-sports-interview-with-jay-danahy-passenger-on-t...
3 days ago - Barstool Sports Interview With Jay Danahy, Passenger On The Hoboken Train ... Thoughts and prayers with everyone involved in the Hoboken crash this .... death in an autopilot car comes as driver was watching Harry Potter, ...

Investigators interview engineer of crashed New Jersey train - Yahoo
https://www.yahoo.com/.../wreckage-blocks-access-second-data-recorder-jerse...
Yahoo!7 hours ago - Investigators had not previously been able to interview the driver, Thomas ... Trainservice remained suspended in and out of the Hoboken ...

Expert On Hoboken Crash: 'Why Didn't He Have Control Of The Train ...
newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/09/29/hoboken-train-crash-interview/



WCBS‑TV2 days ago - CBS2's Chris Wragge and Mary Calvi interview railroad engineering expert ... here or whether it's with the conductor or with the train itself…

Commuter Train Crashes Into Hoboken, New Jersey, Station, Killing 1: Officials
NBCNews.com‎ - Commuter Train Crashes Into Hoboken, New Jersey, Station, Killing 1: While the investigation is in its preliminary stages, there was no initial sign of terrorism or that it was a deliberate act, two local law enforcement officials said.  The Hoboken station — a historic facility and NJ Transit's fifth-busiest — was the site of another crash on a different train line that left more than 30 hurt in 2011.

Hoboken train crash kills 1, injures 108, Gov. Chris Christie says
CNBC‎ - 28 mins ago

Hoboken train crash kills 1, injures 108, Gov. Chris Christie says
www.cnbc.com/.../major-train-accident-occurs-in-hoboken-nj-injuries-reported...
CNBC
28 mins ago - A commuter train crashed into the station at a major transit hub for Manhattan at the height of morning rush hour, killing at least one person and injuring 108 including the engineer, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Thursday afternoon. New Jersey Transit said the crash ...

Hoboken Train Crashes Through Wall Of NJ Station — Get Details ...
hollywoodlife.com/.../hoboken-train-crash-new-jersey-station-termina...
Hollywood Life
6 hours ago - A train crashed into the terminal of the New Jersey Transit Hoboken ... There is reportedly no reason to believe this crash was a deliberate act ...

What caused the Hoboken train crash?
www.lohud.com/story/news/...hoboken-train-crash/91269290/
The Journal News The exact cause of Thursday's Hoboken train crash is still unknown ... "I think adeliberate act has been ruled out, based on what we know.”.

Hoboken train crash: 1 dead, 75 injured - CNN.com
www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/us/new-jersey-hoboken-train-crash/
CNN   A New Jersey Transit train crashed into a platform in Hoboken during Thursday morning's rush-hour commute, at least 1 dead and 75 others ...

Witnesses recall chaos amid deadly train crash - Courier-Post
www.courierpostonline.com/story/...train-crash-hoboken.../91261094/
Courier‑Post  NJ Transit train crash in Hoboken killed one, injured at least 75 and ... agency officials believe it was likely not a deliberate act of terrorism.

Massive Train Crash Hoboken NJ | Culture of Life News
https://emsnews.wordpress.com/2016/09/29/massive-train-crash-hoboken-nj/
5 hours ago - New Jersey Train Crash Video Footage - YouTube Train crashes in New ... it has to be deliberate, that is, the train was deliberately sped up to ...

100 injured in Hoboken train crash - Asbury Park Press
www.app.com/story/news/local/...hoboken-train-crash/91268330/
Asbury Park Press An NJ Transit train crashed at Hoboken Terminal on Sept. ... indicating that agency officials believe it was likely not a deliberate act of terrorism.

N.J. train accident in Hoboken terminal | MSNBC
www.msnbc.com/stephanie.../n-j-train-accident-in-hoboken-terminal-775598147540
Law enforcements said that this "is not a deliberate act" and that it was an ...

One dead, over 100 injured after NJ Transit train hits Hoboken station ...


www.northjersey.com/.../one-dead-over-100-injured-after-nj-transit-train-hit...


The Record

6 hours ago - ... were injured – many critically – when a train crashed into Hoboken ... agency officials believe it was likely not a deliberate act of terrorism.