Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Google "Jill Kelley" and "Mata Hari" Modern Arab Spy Chick?


Who was Mata Hari? 
 Margaretha Geertruida "Margreet" Zelle (7 August 1876 – 15 October 1917), better known by the stage name Mata Hari, was a Dutch exotic dancer, courtesan, and accusedspy[1] who was executed by firing squad in France under charges of espionage for Germany during World War I.[2]

Double agent


Mata Hari, ca. 1909
During World War I, the Netherlands remained neutral. As a Dutch subject, Margaretha Zelle was thus able to cross national borders freely. To avoid the battlefields, she travelled between France and the Netherlands via Spain and Britain, and her movements inevitably attracted attention. In 1916, she was travelling by steamer from Spainwhen her ship called at the English port of Falmouth. There she was arrested and brought to London where she was interrogated at length by Sir Basil Thomson, Assistant Commissioner at New Scotland Yardin charge of counter-espionage. He gave an account of this in his 1922 book Queer People, saying that she eventually admitted to working for French Intelligence. Initially detained in Cannon Street police station, she was then released and stayed at the Savoy Hotel. A full transcript of the interview is in Britain's National Archives and was broadcast with Mata Hari played by Eleanor Bron on the independent station London Broadcasting in 1980.
It is unclear if she lied on this occasion, believing the story made her sound more intriguing, or if French authorities were using her in such a way, but would not acknowledge her due to the embarrassment and international backlash it could cause.
In January 1917, the German military attaché in Madrid transmitted radio messages to Berlin describing the helpful activities of a German spy, code-named H-21. French intelligence agents intercepted the messages and, from the information it contained, identified H-21 as Mata Hari. The messages were in acode that some claimed that German intelligence knew had already been broken by the French (in fact it had been broken not by the French, but by the British "Room 40" team), leaving some to claim that the messages were contrived.[10] However, this same code, which the Germans were convinced was unbreakable[11] was used to transmit the Zimmerman Telegram; its unintended interception some weeks later precipitated the United States' entry into the war against Germany. Therefore, the belief held by some that the messages were contrived is spurious.

[edit]Trial and execution


Execution of Mata Hari (1920 movie)
On 13 February 1917, Mata Hari was arrested in her room at the Hotel Elysee Palace, on the Champs Elysee (now the HSBC French headquarters), in Paris. She was put on trial, accused of spying for Germany and consequently causing the deaths of at least 50,000 soldiers. Although the French and British intelligence suspected her of spying for Germany, neither could produce definite evidence against her. Secret ink was found in her room, which was incriminating evidence in that period. She contended that it was part of her make-up.[12] She wrote several letters to the Dutch Consul in Paris, claiming her innocence. "My international connections are due of my work as a dancer, nothing else [...]. Because I really did not spy, it is terrible that I cannot defend myself."[13] She was found guilty and was executed by firing squad on 15 October 1917, at the age of 41.
Feminist author Pat Shipman's biography Femme Fatale claimed that Mata Hari never was a double agent, but was used as a scapegoat by the French military authority to obscure the failing of the French military operations at the front.
But German documents unsealed in the 1970s proved that Mata Hari was truly a German agent. In the autumn of 1915, she entered German service, and on orders of section III B-Chief Walter Nicolai, she was instructed about her duties by Major Roepell during a stay in Cologne. Her reports were to be sent to the Kriegsnachrichtenstelle West (War News Post West) in Düsseldorf under Roepell as well as to the Agent mission in the German embassy in Madrid under Major Arnold Kalle, with her direct handler being Captain Hoffmann, who also gave her the code name H21.[14]
In December 1916, the French Second Bureau of the French War Ministry let Mata Hari obtain the names of six Belgian agents: five of whom were suspected of submitting fake material and working for the Germans, while the sixth was suspected to be a double agent for Germany and France. Two weeks after Mata Hari had left Paris for a trip to Madrid, the double agent was executed by the Germans, while the five others continued their operations. This development served as proof to the Second Bureau that the names of the six spies had been communicated by Mata Hari to the Germans.[15]




Jill Kelley is an 'honorary consul' of South Korea

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4 hours ago – Jill Kelley, the Tampa socialite connected to ISAF Commander John Allen ... is beginning to sound like the modern day equivlent of Mata Hari.


Jill Kelly - Who is talking about Jill Kelly on TWITTER

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Check who's talking about Jill Kelly right now on TWITTER. ... cbrecluse : @sirphil_ @EWErickson It's Jill Kelly, as Mata Hari. 11 minutes ago - Via TweetCaster ...


Sex scandal probe also catches Top US commander in Afghanistan ...

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1 day ago – Looks like Jill Kelley is single handedly taking down Obama's top national security ..... Who the heck is this Jill Kelly- a modern say Mata Hari?


Jill Kelley, Tampa Socialite, Becomes Center Of David Petraeus ...

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2 hours ago – In the phone call to authorities, Jill Kelley, a party hostess and unofficial... Reminds me a modern age Mata Hari or the redhead Russian chick ...


The Arab Reading of the Petraeus/Allen Affair: Jill Kelley is Gilberte ...

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8 hours ago – David Petraeus, ex-director of the CIA, goes by Jill Kelley. But her maiden ... So far there is no reason to think she is a Mata Hari of any sort.


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    20 hours ago – Posts about Jill Kelley written by John L. Work. ... Mata Hari was a Dutch-born exotic dancer. Her real name was Margaretha Geertruida ...


    FBI agent sent shirtless photos to Kelley, officials say - U.S. News

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    21 hours ago – The FBI agent who was asked by Jill Kelley to look into disturbing emails she received was later taken ... Mata Hari had nothing on these two.


    Jill Kelley's Lebanese background...

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    ill Kelley's Lebanese background...


    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/is-o...king-the-case/
    Ever since it was revealed that Jill Kelley, the woman arguably at the center of the currently-unfolding drama rocking the U.S. government, is of Lebanese origin, Twitter users have asked whether she and CIA Director Petraeus’ mistress Paula Broadwell should be investigated for potential national security leaks.

     Kelley first came into the public eye after Broadwell began sending her “threatening” emails regarding getting too close to Petreaus. But she really piqued the public’s interest after it was revealed that General John Allen also sent her thousands of pages of “inappropriate” emails, and an FBI agent even sent her shirtless photos of himself.

     Now, Orcas George at the extremely left-leaning Daily Kos has begun building the case that Kelley’s actions are suspicious at best, and that if she was not in the employ of a foreign intelligence service, “the world’s spy agencies have collectively suffered a dereliction of duty.”

     Mind you, The Daily Kos is the same site that called Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann’s investigation into Huma Abedin a “witch hunt,” despite tangible connections to the Muslim Brotherhood.

     The article explains:

     It probably goes without saying that both General Petraus of the CIA and General Allen would be top targets for foreign intelligence operations — especially by countries in the Middle East. Knowing details of US actions there would be of benefit to many countries; some allies, some nominal allies and some considered to be enemies.

     The fact that socialite Jill Kelley’s maiden name is Khawam and that she was born in Lebanon to Maronite Christian parents should raise eyebrows a bit. (Note that the Maronite Christians were allies of Israel in the Lebanese Civil War/Lebanon invasion.) The fact that she and her husband were willing to go into debt to throw lavish parties for high level officers who are involved in the Middle East should make even the most resolute anti-CTers among us pause. The further fact that she is identified as an unofficial liaison between top American Generals and unspecified Middle Eastern contacts, well…​[Emphasis added]
    Using supplementary details from a Washington Post article, the Daily Kos then proceeds to detail Kelley’s access, motivations, connections, opportunity, and ability.

     Read part of their case, below (the Washington Post details are in the highlighted boxes):
    (Photo: The Daily Kos)
    ​And that’s only part of their argument. Again, that comes from one of the most liberal sites out there — not some wild conspiracy theory outlet.

     “OK, this is getting weird,” the article notes. In so many ways.

     Read the entire Daily Kos article here.


    Jill Kelley's Lebanese background...

    Not a big fan of Raimondo but he did his research on this one. Must read.

     A Covert Affair:
    Petraeus Caught in the Honeypot?
    by Justin Raimondo, November 12, 2012

     The outing of Gen. David Petraeus as an adulterer, and his subsequent resignation as CIA Director, was carried out by an unknown FBI “whistleblower” who leaked the facts of the FBI investigation into the General’s private life to Rep. Eric Cantor. The New York Times reports:

     “Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, said Saturday an F.B.I. employee whom his staff described as a whistle-blower told him about Mr. Petraeus’s affair and a possible security breach in late October, which was after the investigation had begun.

     “’I was contacted by an F.B.I. employee concerned that sensitive, classified information may have been compromised and made certain Director Mueller was aware of these serious allegations and the potential risk to our national security,’ Mr. Cantor said in a statement.

     “Mr. Cantor talked to the person after being told by Representative Dave Reichert, Republican of Washington, that a whistle-blower wanted to speak to someone in the Congressional leadership about a national security concern. On Oct. 31, his chief of staff, Steve Stombres, called the F.B.I. to tell them about the call.”

     The FBI probe apparently started in late spring, when several people associated with Petraeus — not just the one woman, as has been reported elsewhere — received harassing emails. The emails were traced to 40-year-old Paula Broadwell, national security analyst, military intelligence veteran, and author of a biography of Petraeus. Authorities believed his email account may have been hacked, and this led to a remarkable irony: the CIA chief’s emails were monitored, without his knowledge, whereupon it was discovered Broadwell may have either had access to his account or tried to obtain access. In any case, in the course of their spying, FBI monitors discovered a large volume of emails to and from Broadwell. Looking for evidence of a security breach, all they found was evidence of a “human drama,” as one anonymous FBI official put it: an illicit affair between Petraeus and Broadwell.

     Petraeus was only informed of the investigation on October 25 or 26. So here we have the astonishing fact of the CIA’s head honcho being spied on for a period of months by our own law enforcement officials.

     Or maybe it wasn’t a simple case of complaints about “harassing” or threatening emails. Fox News avers:

     “The FBI had been investigating an unrelated and much broader case before stumbling on the affair. Fox News has learned that during the course of this investigation, the name of biographer Paula Broadwell came up. The FBI followed that lead and in doing so, uncovered his affair with her.”

     What was this “much broader case”? Almost certainly it was a counterintelligence investigation, i.e. a pushback against efforts by some foreign entity to penetrate or otherwise compromise US secrets. We can only guess at the specifics, however we do know that in the course of that investigation Broadwell’s name “came up.”

     On the surface, at least, Broadwell is not the sort of person whose name would come up in a counterintelligence investigation: a West Point graduate, where she earned degrees in political geography and systems engineering, she seems like the veritable embodiment of All-American
    red-white-and-blue super-patriotism. This biographical account on her high school website says

     “Paula pursued a military intelligence career abroad, serving in Asia, Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. During her service, especially after 9-11, Paula’s intensity was directed toward the war against terror; her contributions and efforts to thwart terrorism have been commended by the U.S. Army and by Europe’s Special Operations Forces Commanding General. In this arena, she has planned counter-terrorism initiatives presented to NATO and worked on transnational counter-terrorism issues with foreign and domestic agencies, U.S. Special Forces, and the FBI.”

     Graduate studies at the University of Denver in Middle East studies enabled her to travel to “Jordan and Israel,” and make a swing through the Persian Gulf and Europe where she spoke at various conferences. This triumphal tour was capped by a Harvard fellowship “for study in Syria and Iran.”

     While Broadwell’s current academic affiliation is with Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, her previous post was deputy director of the Jebsen Center for Counter-Terrorism Studies at Tufts University’s Fletcher School. The Center, according to its self-description, “distinguishes itself by a philosophy that maintains counter-terrorism should be predictive, preventive and preemptive, with the latter being a last resort.” Founded in 2005, the Jebsen Center was made possible by the generous donation of one Jan Henrik Jebsen, heir to the Norwegian shipping fortune, who gave $1.3 million to set it up. Jebsen, a former investment banker with Lazard Freres, is the principal of Gamma Applied Visions Group, an international octopus with tentacles all over the place: part arms dealer and weapons developer, part “green” energy company. As one might expect from someone who has so much of his multi-billion dollar fortune invested in making and selling armaments, Jebsen is on the board of directors of the distinctly warlike Hudson Institute, where Scooter Libby, Douglas Feith, Michael Ledeen, and practically every neocon you’ve ever heard of have found refuge.

     While, in true neocon fashion, Hudson scholars conjure a wide diversity of imminent “threats” to the US, including China and Russia, their main focus is the threat of Islamist radicalism, especially as it impacts Israel. Indeed, Hudson operates inside Israel, where it pushes the far-rightist views of the most extreme elements in Israeli society: the settler movement, and the faction of Likud angling for war with Iran. It has also focused its attention on purging universities of academics who don’t toe the right-wing ultra-nationalist Likudnik line.

     More recently, former Hudson president and “trustee emeritus” Max Singer — who has since moved to Israel, where, as a “public policy consultant” at Bar Ilan University, he spends his time inciting violence against Palestinians — is on a mission to protect Israel from the alleged threat posed by the President of the United States.

     The Jebsen Center has been equally useful to the neocons. Richard H. Schultz, head of Tufts’ International Studies program (of which the Center is a part) was a signatory to the Project for a New American Century’s “open letter” to President Bush urging war with Iraq and a number of other Middle Eastern actors in the wake of 9/11. Here he is recommending the importation of Israeli “anti-terrorist” techniques to pacify the restless natives of Iraq. Here is another Jebsen Center scholar describing alleged terrorist actions engaged in by Iran worldwide. And then there’s the testimony of this guy:

     “The idea of overthrowing the Iranian government through covert but peaceful means is not original. The project was first brought to my attention in August 2006 when I worked as an intern research assistant at Tufts University’s Fletcher School of Diplomacy’s Jebsen Center for Counter-terrorism. I worked for the then director of the center Brigadier General Russell Howard (Ret.) on a project titled Bringing Down Iran Without Firing A Shot. I wasn’t very experienced in the world of covert operations in the field or in the academic realm but I was very interested in becoming involved in it. General Howard, on the other hand, was not only a counter-terrorism strategist but a veteran Special Forces officer, an academic, and a tutor. It was General Howard who introduced me to the idea of targeting factors specific to Iran in order to adapt to the country’s specific needs. He had six factors which he believed were important: The military use of ongoing insurgencies within Iran, political strife, economic strife, declining oil revenues, demographics, and deteriorating infrastructure.”

     Interestingly, in November of 2006, during her tenure at the Jebsen Center, Broadwell led a group of Fletcher School students on a trip to New York City to meet with then Iranian UN representative Javad Zarif. Both are alumni of the Josef Korbel School of International Studies at the University of Denver.

     All this establishes a context that goes far beyond the titillating details of the alleged affair between Petraeus and Broadwell — and this is no doubt what set alarm bells ringing in the intelligence community when it was revealed. Is there really any need to point out the uses of the “honeypot” in intelligence-gathering and other covert activities regularly engaged in by spooks of all nations? From Mata Hari to the Mossad agent who lured Israeli nuclear scientist Mordecahi Vanunu, sex is a time-honored weapon in the war of spy-vs-spy. A secret affair with the CIA Director is the equivalent of the Honeypot Olympics, and we have to ask: was the remarkably fit Ms. Broadwell a lure? If so, she’s won a Gold Medal.

     Broadwell’s actions — sending emails that were bound to be traced back to her — appear to make little sense on the surface. But if the goal of luring a 60-year-old geezer into an affair with a much younger woman was to expose him, and get him fired, then surely her antics succeeded in accomplishing that goal.

     So who would have an interest in getting rid of Petraeus? Here’s where the Cantor connection comes in. The tip by an anonymous “FBI employee” that wound up in Cantor’s office two weeks ago came through Rep. David Reichert, Republican of Washington state, who has a friend who knows the whistleblower. Cantor then spoke to the whistleblower directly, who put him in touch with FBI Director Mueller.

     Cantor is a great friend of Israel, and Petraeus — not so much. The General was attacked, as you’ll recall, by partisans of the Lobby, including Abe Foxman, when he delivered testimony before Congress citing Israel as a strategic liability in the Middle East. As the executor of the new Obamaite policy of sidling up to Islamists, not only in Libya but also in Syria and Egypt, Petraeus was no doubt seen by the Israelis as an enemy to be neutralized.

     Broadwell’s affiliation with the Jebsen Center, and the Center’s connection to the neoconservative network, sets the scene: a young, attractive woman with impeccable national security credentials throws herself at Petraeus, and he takes the bait. Whether she’s been recruited by a foreign intelligence agency at this point or not is irrelevant: he’s already put himself in a vulnerable position, and there are any number of actors on the international stage more than willing to press their advantage.

     Will we ever know the full story? At this point, the story is so hot that it may burn the cover story — “it’s all about sex” — right off the wrapper. Because there’s more — a lot more — here than meets the eye. When Cantor pledged to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that he and his fellow Republicans “will serve as a check on the administration” in regard to the President’s policy toward Israel, he was clearly aligning himself with a foreign leader against American interests as perceived by the White House. But would he really go this far — deliberately taking down a key figure, one beloved by Republicans, in order to keep his promise to Netanyahu?

     Stay tuned to this space, because this story is moving fast….

     Update: This morning [11/12/12] the New York Times reports:

     “F.B.I. agents interviewed Ms. Broadwell for the first time the week of Oct. 21, and she acknowledged the affair, a government official briefed on the matter said. She also voluntarily gave the agency her computer. In a search, the agents discovered several classified documents, which raised the additional question of whether Mr. Petraeus had given them to her. She said that he had not. Agents interviewed Mr. Petraeus the following week. He also admitted to the affair but said he had not given any classified documents to her. The agents then interviewed Ms. Broadwell again on Friday, Nov. 2, the official said.”

     Bingo!

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      23 hours ago – Mata Hari was a Dutch-born exotic dancer. ... is now under investigation, himself, for some shirtless e-mail photos he sent to – Jill Kelley.

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      1 day ago – John Allen Under Investigation for E-mails with Jill Kelley. By Jeralyn .....she should have remembered that Mata Hari did not end up so well.




    Is One of the Women in the Petraeus Scandal a Spy? You'll Never ...

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    14 hours ago – Ever since it was revealed that Jill Kelley, the woman arguably at the.... /2012/11/13/1161265/-Jill-Kelley-Khawam-The-Lebanese-Mata-Hari?

    To: RummyChick

    One of the sisters married Grayson Wolfe. “The Unstable One”.
    I think there is a good case that can be made for one of them being a Spy. Just not sure whose side she would be working for....

    2 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 19:59:08 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by RummyChick
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    To: RummyChick
    Is this real information or just Beck’s delusions?
    3 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:00:19 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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    To: svcw
    You have to read the article in totality.
    4 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:01:34 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by RummyChick
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    To: RummyChick
    I would not rule anything out.
    Jill Kelly is the only common thread between the Betrayus scandal
    and the breaking General Allen scandal. In addition, Jill’s sister recently
    Received a $300,000 loan from a democratic congressman from RI.
    Did Jill receive this $300,000 from her sister? More questions than answers.
    5 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:03:31 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by tennmountainman
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    To: RummyChick
    Can anyone explain the relationship between Jill Kelley, her sister, and the Broadwell woman? Or does no one know the what their relationship actually is?
    6 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:04:54 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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    To: RummyChick
    The link is to events in Syria ~ rebels backed by Obama and McCain are poised to begin wholesale extermination of Christian minorities ~ they've been doing this sporadically ever since the battle began.The Russian Orthodox church, which has its own extensive connections with residual Christian groups in the Middle East has an interest in what's going on in Syria.
    The twins may simply be working for Christian interests in the Middle East. Who is McCain working for? Anyone have an idea what this guy is up to? We know Obama is tied into the Islamic Brotherhood of course, but McCain? Does this have something to do with who sells Budweiser in Syria? 
    7 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:07:20 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by muawiyah
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    To: tennmountainman
    She got the 300,000 from John Kerry’s fundraiser guy.
    Kerry’s office said they were dating or engaged.
    8 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:07:21 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by RummyChick
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    To: svcw
    Is this real information or just Beck’s delusions?Are you dense or what?
    Beck has been spot on in the middle east for the last two years.
    Pfft, ever hear of Jarret or Huma Abedin? Van Jones ring your freakin bell?
    At least you succeeded keeping the "Mormon" out of office. 
    9 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:08:32 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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    To: RummyChick
    Democrat or Republican?American or Iranian?
    Russian or American?
    Syria or American?
    Israeli or Saudi?
    American or Syrian?
    The possibilities are endless............. 
    10 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:08:39 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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    To: Steely Tom
    at this point -
    the relationship is that Broadwell was jealous of Kelley and thought Jill was after her man. I think she also sent an email to Allen.
    11 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:08:55 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by RummyChick
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    To: RummyChick
    Hey rummy chick. I read an article here a couple of hours ago that said
    a congressman from RI loaned her that money. Did u see that article?
    12 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:09:38 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by tennmountainman
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    To: RummyChick
    We don't know if she was a spy but we do know she was receiving serious money from a top Democratic fundraiser.http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2959126/posts 
    13 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:09:43 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by fso301
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    To: svcw
    Well, either way, it’s a good point that if she -wasn’t- a spy it was a major failed opportunity for some foreign agency.
    14 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:11:00 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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    To: RummyChick
    I was on active duty for over 20 years. My wife and I were talking, and she said she never saw a woman wear "a negligee" to a social gathering with the 4-stars wife.
    I swear, this woman is a Kim Kardashian wannabe. Think Bravo TV - "Real Nightmare Housewives of Tampa." 
    15 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:14:45 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by SkyPilot
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    To: RummyChick
    Being of Lebanese origin in Florida is hardly the equivalent of being a foreign spy. Many thousands Lebanese Christians immigrated to the US during the late 19th and early 20th century. I know of a few who are even Freepers. To seriously speculate that she may be a spy based solely on her Lebanese heritage is equivalent of suspecting everyone of Spanish descent of being Cuban spies.
    16 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:16:39 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by flying Elvis ("In...War, the errors which proceed from a spirit of benevolence are the worst" Clausewitz.)
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    To: tennmountainman
    No. It was Gerald Harrington that loaned her money. He is from Rhode Island.
    .Sheldon Whitehouse didn’t loan her the money.Unless, new information has come out
    17 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:16:51 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by RummyChick
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    To: RummyChick
    Watching Hannity and a point was brought up I forgot. The Bhengazi operation was probably involved in gun running to Syria, or at least rounding up serious arms formerly sold to the Libyan government and rerouting them to Syria.There's your direct connection to Petraeus ~ this guy was fully aware of what was going on at the CIA annex, if they were involved in gun running, and he might have DELAYED rescue ops on behalf of the Lebanese interests just to get that source of Syrian rebel , that is, Al Qaida, arms put to an end.
    Petreaus girlfriend might have been working for THE OTHER SIDE ~ in which case her communications to Mrs. Kelley take on an ominous tone.
    This thing could get worse before it gets better. 
    18 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:17:00 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by muawiyah
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    To: flying Elvis; RummyChick
    It’s not her ancient ancestors who emigrated from Lebanon to the US, both she and her parents and her sister emigrated from Lebanon ~
    19 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:18:35 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by muawiyah
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    To: RummyChick
    Still sounds like a fishy loan. A $300,000 loan? That’s a big loan.
    20 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:20:00 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by tennmountainman
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    To: flying Elvis
    Just being Lebanese doesn’t mean you are a spy.
    There is MUCH MUCH MUCH more to this story.
    She could be a spy for the US. Or as another poster posted - there are an array of possibilities.
    One thing is for sure - Her circumstances are VERY VERY VERY ODD.
    21 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:20:26 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by RummyChick
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    To: tennmountainman
    and Kelley and her surgeon husband are supposedly broke as a result of their real estate holdings going to pot. So there’s financial motive. And now we’re told she made two 911 calls on Sunday to report prowlers/trespassers and raise “diplomatic protection” based on her phoney-baloney “honorary consul” status.
    Weirder and weirder...
    24 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:22:21 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by bigbob
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    To: bigbob
    She got her Consul job in September.
    25 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:23:53 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by RummyChick
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    To: RummyChick
    http://m.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/13/1161265/-Jill-Kelley-Khawam-The-Lebanese-Mata-Hari?showAll=yes
    26 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:25:23 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by opentalk
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    To: RummyChick
    Also, there is a story about the ineptness of the Charity they ran out of their house. Guess what the money was used for???
    27 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:28:49 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by RummyChick
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    To: fso301
    Oh yeah, every guy gives his “date” $300K. This gets funnier and funnier, and I don’t mean haha funny. 
    28 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:28:58 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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    To: RummyChick
    HER circumstances are very odd???? Traipsing around MacDill as a civilian? Sending thousands of emails to a general? Getting the FBI to launch an investigation about some emails she has received? Getting a big Dem to give her a 300k loan?
    How many civilians are traipsing around the base where CENTCOM is located? What the hell is going on down there? How does this woman do this? Who is she working for?
    29 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:30:24 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by ladyjane
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    To: RummyChick
    HER circumstances are very odd???? Traipsing around MacDill as a civilian? Sending thousands of emails to a general? Getting the FBI to launch an investigation about some emails she has received? Getting a big Dem to give her a 300k loan?
    How many civilians are traipsing around the base where CENTCOM is located? What the hell is going on down there? How does this woman do this? Who is she working for?
    30 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:30:38 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by ladyjane
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    To: muawiyah
    Who is McCain working for? Anyone have an idea what this guy is up to? We know Obama is tied into the Islamic Brotherhood of course, but McCain?McCain seems to be in favor of military intervention in every two-bit conflict across the globe. Odd behavior for an ex-military guy.
    But there may be a very rational reason for McCain's bellicosity. Money.
    Going back to the mid-nineties, McCain was vocal in calling for intervention in Kosovo. At the same time, it was also revealed that the Albanian-American National Council (or whatever) was a massive contributor to his campaign fund.
    My guess is you'll find a similar movement -- the Syrian-American Friendship Foundation (or some such)-- financing him today.
    Senator McCain is neither conservative nor liberal. He is an opportunist -- acutely sensitive to which side is buttering his bread.
    Note that it won't necessarily be the American side... 
    31 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:33:02 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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    To: bigbob
    It’s turning out to be multiple freak shows.
    32 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:33:47 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by tennmountainman
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    To: RummyChick
    Knowing no more than that Jill Kelley was central to the investigations of the former and current commanders in charge of Afghanistan, one being the current direct of the CIA, and then an FBI agent was also suspect..., this broad looked too good to be true, for the enemies of the U. S.
    Lest we forget, her little tentacles reached all the way into the Oval office, when Benghazi came crashing down. This impacts the White House, the CIA, the FBI, the Department of Defense, and the State Department. It also has implications for the Senate.
    I think the Democrats are going to have to take action, because this is expanding to the point nobody is going to look clean by the time it’s over.
    Just remember folks. Nixon was a crook, so the Democrats will always have that...
    Guy looks better all the time when you consider what the Democrats have stooped to.
    People didn’t die in Watergate.
    Espionage was not involved.
    The CIA wasn’t involved
    The FBI wasn’t involved
    The State Department wasn’t dirty
    The Department of Defense wasn’t made to look compromised
    If the Daily KOS is on this, and we’re on this, and Diane Feinstein is on this, and the media is on this...
    We just may get some answers.
    I will have to admit, I can’t fathom the Daily KOS grasping this matter.
    34 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:34:50 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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    To: RummyChick
    All groupies are spies for the other bands!
    35 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:36:03 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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    To: Revolting cat!
    ” The position of honorary consul is symbolic and has no official responsibilities, the official said.
    “She does not work as a real consul. They play a role to improve the relationship between the ROK and the U.S.,” the official said. “Jill Kelley helped to get support for [the Korea-U.S. Free Trade Agreement] and she arranged meetings between the ROK Ambassador to Washington and local businessmen when the ROK Ambassador visited the Tampa area.”
    ” Kelley does drive a Mercedes sedan with license plates that say “Honorary Consul,” and she invoked her honorary diplomatic status in a Nov. 11 911 call when she was complaining about trespassers on her private property.
    “I’m an honorary consul general, so I have inviolability, so they should not be able to cross my property,” she told the 911 operator. “I don’t know if you want to get diplomatic protection involved as well, because that’s against the law to cross my property because, you know, it’s inviolable.” “
    36 posted on Tue Nov 13 2012 20:39:30 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by RummyChick
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    To: RummyChick
    Jill sure does have a great resume. If she isn’t spying she should consider it in the future. Her ability to infiltrate is quite amazing. That raises another issue...what’s with the husband?
    If she is a spy, who is she spying for?

    RACHEL MADDOW FAN: SHE IS NOT A MATA HARI OF ANY SORT??? BROADWELL LOOKS GUILTY THOUGH....


    So does it matter that Jill Kelley is an Arab-American? I doubt it. She seems just to be a rich, flirtatious Tampa socialite with good Republican Party connections and a network of high military and FBI “admirers,” and who over-reacted to some petty emails. So far there is no reason to think she is a Mata Hari of any sort.

    The Arab Reading of the Petraeus/Allen Affair: Jill Kelley is Gilberte Khawam, a Lebanese








    Posted on 11/14/2012 by Juan
    The headlines about the Petraeus affair in the Arab world this morning almost universally read something like “Lebanese woman brings down CIA.” The woman who seems to have destroyed three careers and kicked off the FBI investigation of Gen. David Petraeus, ex-director of the CIA, goes by Jill Kelley. But her maiden name is Gilberte Khawam.
    Once the elder Khawam came to the US, he at one point ran a restaurant, the “Sahara,” in the Philadelphia area, and also an auto store. Gilberte or “Jill” was born in 1975, and it isn’t clear whether she was born in the US or in Lebanon. She later married a surgeon named Kelley and 12 years ago they moved to Tampa. They have 3 daughters.
    The 1970s were a turbulent time in Lebanon, with the rise of the PLO in Palestinian refugee camps, student strikes, and then from April of 1975 the beginnings of a civil war that lasted a decade and a half. (I myself lived in Lebanon on and off in the 1970s).
    <STUFF>
    Natalie Khawam, an attorney, has specialized in defending whistle-blowers. (More generals should be friendly with the attorneys for whistle-blowers, in my view). She is said to have been divorced in part because she cannot manage her finances, and went $3 mn. into debt and bankrupt. The judge in her custody case accused her of being dishonest, manipulative and detached from reality.
    Apparently her sister, Gilberte “Jill” Khawam Kelley was close enough to Petraeus such that the latter’s ex-girlfriend, Paula Broadwell, was jealous of her.
    The Petraeuses had been guests in the Kelley home in Tampa, and there is a photo, published by Alarabiya: of the Kelleys with Petraeus’s wife, Holly:

    ...





    So does it matter that Jill Kelley is an Arab-American? I doubt it. She seems just to be a rich, flirtatious Tampa socialite with good Republican Party connections and a network of high military and FBI “admirers,” and who over-reacted to some petty emails. So far there is no reason to think she is a Mata Hari of any sort. But it does say something about how prominent Arab-Americans now are in US society that no one much remarked on her ethnicity when the story broke. And, who knows, her inherited culture may have had something to do with her reaction to Broadwell’s emails. Lebanon is a place where you kind of have to take threats seriously. And, reaching out to a friend in the government in a way a lot of Americans might consider inappropriate is routine in Beirut (hence seeking “wasta” or a personal connection via the shirtless FBI guy). But lots of Americans of other backgrounds might have reacted similarly.

    I’m with Rachel Maddow that the FBI investigators have behaved with appalling lack of regard for the personal privacy of all these individuals, none of whom appears actually to have done anything illegal (though depending on how menacing they were, Broadwell’s threats may have crossed a line). It is not clear to me that the agency should have briefed anyone on the outside on its findings, given the personal and entirely legal character of the information discovered. 

    The only exception here is that Broadwell may have committed a crime by using the internet to threaten Kelley, and Broadwell may have had unauthorized access to classified information via her connection to Petraeus.


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