Saturday, June 8, 2019

Bodies of 2 Bahamas Men Alrae Ramsey and Blair John Found in Italy River

Bodies of 2 Bahamas Men Alrae Ramsey and Blair John Found in Italy River --- ===

June 4, 2019 (1st body 2 days old) Bahamas Diplomat Alrae Ramsey Found Dead in Italy River 

June 5, 2019 (Blair John) Bahamas Student Blair John 2nd Body Found in Italy River   Body of diplomat foreign service officer for the Bahamas Alrae Ramsey, 29, from the Po River in Turin, Italy, on Tuesday. Police report he had injuries consistent with a fall. Blair John’s corpse, who was reported missing was recovered downstream from the same river on wednesday. Friends doubt police opinion that it was probably an accident and not foul play.

Alternative theory: Sounds like the 2 GOP former state senators found dead in two different states the same week in Oklahoma and Arkansas. Assasination? Who wants to hurt the Bahamas? These are the same dates these men were pulled from the river:  June 4, 2019 1st Former Oklahoma state senator Linda Collins-Smith found shot dead former Arkansas state Sen. Linda Collins-Smith, 56, was found fatally shot outside her home in Pocahontas on Tuesday. neighbors said they had heard gunshots a day or two earlier. Both Nichols and Collins-Smith were Republicans  June 5, 2019 2nd Former Arkansas state senator Jonathan Nichols found dead in 2 days former state Sen. Jonathan Nichols was found deadof an apparent gunshot wound inside his home. discovered the body of the 53-year-old inside his west Norman home after receiving a call Wednesday night of an individual with a gunshot wound.

Footnotes:

  1. Bodies of recent St. John's, UST grad and his friend found in Italian river  www.startribune.com/recent-university-of-st-thomas...dead-in-italian.../510933262/  Police have yet to offer specifics about what led to the men's death other ... “We are deeply saddened to hear of the passing of Blair John, an ... psychology student who recently completed his second of two degrees from Minnesota universities Police have yet to offer specifics about what led to the men’s death other than to point out that Ramsey had a cut to his face, suggesting a fall, the news reports added.  find it odd that the two would both be found dead in the same river days and miles apart.“The police leaning toward accidental or no foul play is kind of strange to me,”  6-foot-5 and lifted weights and worked out regularly. It is  unlikely he would have accidentally drowned in the river.” While at St. Thomas, John was a student worker in the Office of International Students and Scholars (OISS).
  2. Body of Minnesota Man Recovered in Po River in Turin, Italy, Days ...https://www.thedailybeast.com/body-of-minnesota-man-recovered-in-po-river-in-turi... found dead upstream, the Star Tribune reports. Blair John, 28, was located in the Po River in Turin about three miles from 29-year-old Alrae Ramsey, a foreign service officer for the Bahamas. [government official]   body of a Minnesota man was recovered in an Italian river days after his traveling companion was found dead upstream, the Star Tribune reports. Blair John, 28, was located in the Po River in Turin about three miles from 29-year-old Alrae Ramsey, a foreign service officer for the Bahamas. few of John’s college friends suspect foul play. 
  3. Mother of graduate found in Turin: 'I can't believe it was an accident ...  www.tribune242.com/news/2019/.../mother-graduate-found-turin-i-cant-believe-it-wa... The Tribune Limited (Bahamas)   June 5, 2019 Blair John's (inset right) body was recovered yesterday June 4. ... together the mystery of how two men with promising prospects died. ... Alrae Ramsey, 29, from the Po River in Turin, Italy, on Tuesday. ... #However, Turin's police chief, Giuseppi de Matheis found it difficult to believe the men were victims of crime. my son is very, very fit. He’s a strong swimmer and I know him well enough to know that no, he had no reason to go out this way can be ruled out that apparent injuries may have been the cause of death. If (the autopsy) does not clarify the doubts on the death dynamic, the Italian police team in charge of the case will examine phone records, credit cards and debit card records.”   #Ramsey, a foreign service officer on study leave in Vienna, was reportedly in Turin on a break. He and his friend, John, were staying at a bed and breakfast establishment at Via la Loggia 2 in Turin.  #John, a 28-year-old Saint Mary’s University graduate student, was there to attend a psychology conference. they need to know what is going on so we can send out a clarion sound for Bahamians or even people of colour to be careful going in that area. Two ideas I have in my head are robbery or their colour or maybe even to get their documents to travel because their bags are still missing.” comments:  (troll spreading conspiracy theory to mask assasination?) hope these two young Bahamians, with their travel ties to Port-au-Prince, Montreal and Turin, were not in anyway connected with the nefarious trafficing activities of one of the leading organized crime syndicates based in Montreal. Dumping beat-up corpses in rivers without bothering to weigh them down is a very characteristic way for mafiosa families to send a clear message to others who might be thinking about crossing them. If these deaths somehow involved a mafiosa family in Montreal or Turin, the Italian police in Turin will want the deaths swept under the rug as quickly as possible because they too are known to have close ties to several of the major mafiosa families. I hope I'm not right about any of this, but there are too many dots here that can be all too easily connected for the worse. The mafia is Sicily not Turin. . . Don't be so ignorant. Obviously you've never heard of the Great Gretzky of criminal organizations - Alphonso Caruana. Although Alphonso was put behind bars in Italy by a Turin Judge, his crime family remains alive and well in both Montreal and Turin. Obviously nothing suspicious here, with an apparent cover up by Italian police, right? BOTH MALE DARK COMPLEXIONS BAHAMIANS.....TRAVEL TO ONE COUNTRY.....ITALY.....VERY VERY...SAME COUNTRY.....ITALY.....DA SAME TWO SMART BAHAMIANS.......GONE TO. VERY VERY.SAME CITY......TURIN.....STAY AT VERY VERY.SAME RESIDENCE UNDER DA VERY VERY SAME ROOF................FOUND ......DEAD...IN VERY VERY SAME RIVER.....SAME RIVER.... I knew these men. They worked for me durring their undergraduate days. They were both brilliant individuals who in my judgment were not capable of nefarious "mafia" involvment. The idea is ludicrous. They had everything to live for and their trajectory in life was exceptional. They had no need to be involved in crime. This reeks of robery and murder. So sad. fact that they were both found in a river. Is suspicious,  Could it be lovers quarrel , or one jumping in to commit suicide and the other jumping in to try to rescue him and both drowning ,, be interesting to know the current and rocks in the river. /  article and the subsequent comments are a microcosm of everything that is wrong with the Bahamas. First you have a "journalist" writing a headline of such stupidity. What a mother, 5,000 miles away from an event that tragically killed her son, "believes" in her heart-break moments is of course totally subjective, completely irrelevant and can bear no relation to reality. While we should all sympathise with her grief, we should be aware that no sense can come out of her mouth at this moment. So, why report it? Complete lack of professional standards. As in everything else that happens in the Bahamas. Everyone is a self-appointed something: the preacher is a bishop, the hack who can't write two sentences in English is a journalist. Bahamian professional standards in a nutshell. Then you get to see the comments and they are such inane bullshit that they show the state of mind of the population. A collection of sub standard IQs prone to conspiracy theories with about as much logic to them as a 3 year old could muster. Only logical advice a father could give his sons is to run away from here as quickly and early as possible. An early death in the Po is preferable to a life here. / Has literally ZERO to do with "the Bahamas". Interviewing relatives friends family members is a common practice worldwide. With the aim being to find out IF they know what could have happened. I doubt the reporter asked the mother if she could solve the case. She reported what the mother said. Also common practice. As to the general populace, It is a human thing to ask "Why", no amount of wealth or education will change that. If someone in old fort bay disappeared under mysterious circumstances, youd be right to the 2acre wall or the country club Sunday tea talking to your neighbour about what "could" have happened. Literally nobody with blood running through their veins says "not talking about it until the coroner's report comes out". That's disingenuous. / "POLICE are still awaiting the results of a toxicology report as rumours persist over the mysterious death of British national Dannie Lea." "Superintendent Joy Bosfield told The Tribune an autopsy revealed his cause of death was from complications related to heart failure." Read further where it says there were bruises on the body /  majority of cases its us killing us..and no John I do not believe it is a CIA plot whenever someone guns down someone in Nassau over drugs ,gangs or someone get roach .If the U S wanted the Bahamas all they would have to do is stop their citizens visiting , like Cuba .In a year we would be building rafts and hope the wind and current took us to the U S So if you don’t believe it’s a CIA plot then why did you mention it? You prolly one of dem dutty agents.
  4. A second Bahamian and SAC graduate has been found dead in Italy ...  bahamaspress.com › Local  June 5, 2019 5.50pm UPDATE: Officials have confirmed that the body of Blair John was pulled from the river Po on Wednesday morning. More news to come. What is this? We report yinner decide! Bahamian Diplomat student on Government Grant Alrae Ramsey has been found dead in a river in Italy .28-year old John was  filed in a missing report along with Ramsey. The last communication from the pair, according to relatives, was last week Thursday.

    John, you should know, had attended St. Mary’s University in Canada and was studying in the UK.dispatched agents to the area to explore why the men were really in Italy, 
  5. Bahamian student found dead in Italy - The Nassau Guardian  June 5, 2019 body of 29-year-old Alrae Ramsey, a Bahamian and foreign service officer with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and a student at the Diplomatic Academy of Vienna, was fished from the banks of Po River near the Isabella Bridge in Turin, Italy, around 3:30 p.m. yesterday,June4 according to Italian officials. Officials believe his body had been in the water for at least two days.(June 2_   body had a head injury that the coroner considers compatible with a fall. Ramsey’s family members, who did not wish to be named, said they had not heard from him since Thursday (May 30) senior diplomat from the Bahamas High Commission in London has been sent to Turin to peak  with police   (found later in same river) Blair John, who was reportedly visiting Italy from Canada, is also reported missing.

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