Friday, September 30, 2016

Nathan DeSai Disgruntled Indian Nazi Lawyer Houston Mass Shooting

Nathan DeSai Disgruntled Indian Nazi Lawyer Houston Mass Shooting --- ===

Disgruntled Indian with no connection to Islam or terrorism but heavy pot smoker collects Nazi themed items, dons a Nazi military uniform, and goes on a suicide by cop shooting spree at random cars after his law office partnership closes. No authorities suspect any connection to terrorism but netizens wonder why a man who is apparently not a terrorist acts like a typical Islamist terrorist dons a political uniform and mass shoots people at random is obviously an act of terrorism if not a terrorist. On August 4, police were called.  when he confronted roofers with an assault rifle at his condo complex.

6:30 in the morning Nathan Desai showed up to a crowded Houston Plaza and began shooting with what was described as a Tommy Gunn.

Best comment: "the shooting did not appear to be an act of terrorism"??? How is a Nazi-emblem clad gunman shooting commuters at random not a terrorist? How is the concept of domestic terrorism still not clear in this country?

Tipped at an angle in a red circle is not a Hindu symbol. 




September 26, 2016 9 wounded (6 shot  3 by flying debris) suspect shot and killed. An Asian Indian gunman Nathan DeSaiopened fire in southwest Houston in a Nazi-style military uniform opens fire at passing random cars  a Houston shopping center and injures nine people. He owned an expensive Porsche car and lived in the community and reportedly a unemployed and disgruntled lawyer who had issues with his recently closed law firm. Responding police kill the shooter afterwards. more weapons were found inside the car.  45 semi-automatic handgun and a .45 Tommy Gun as well as 2,600 rounds of live ammo. He shot at officers but didn’t hit any of them (Fox News) Houston gunman's rampage ends with suspect dead - USA Today USA Today A disgruntled Houston lawyer on a pre-dawn shooting rampage wounded nine people Monday before he was fatally shot by police officers ...   Porsche-driving lawyer was Houston shooter USA TODAY‎ Six were shot, three others suffered injuries from flying glass before gunman was killed. Houston shooting: Nine injured, suspect dead - CNN.com  Nathan DeSai has been identified as the shooter who opened fire in southwestHouston, the mayor says. Police say the suspect died in a ...Houuston shooting wounds nine people, gunman killed by police  The Washington Post4 days ago - A gunman in Houston wounded nine people Monday morning before being shot to death by police, Houston Gunman With Nazi Emblem Injures 9 Before Being Killed by ...lawyer wearing a military uniform with a Nazi emblem and armed with two guns and nearly 2,600 rounds of ammunition opened fire on random passers-by in Houston early Monday, injuring nine before he was killed by the police, the authorities said.  Houston lawyer shoots nine, is killed by police | Reuters Reuters police bomb squad secured the shooter's car, which contained more than 2,600 rounds of ammunition. Police said a handgun was found ... Houston shooting: Gunman who fired at motorists was "aiming to kill ... CBS News  lawyer who had numerous weapons randomly shot at drivers in a Houston neighborhood Monday morning, hitting ...

Was he a terrorist?  Isn't wearing a Nazi uniform a declaration of allegience to a terrorist cause???

Authorities have not yet ruled out terrorism but so far have not seen any evidence to prove it was: Houston Police Chief Martha Montalvo said she was not ready to say that the shooting is not related to terrorism when asked by reporters, according to KPRC.

Mayor Sylvester Turner said there is no remaining credible threat to to the community and “there does not appear to be any connection to a terrorist act,” KHOU-TV reports. (If he's a nazi, that's a political motive, if that's a lying cover story, then his real motive is even worse because he's hiding something like ISIS or a foreign government)

The law office went out of business: “McDaniel & DeSai LLP closed and unwound.” The landlord for the pair’s office told KHOU’s Drew Karedes that the firm had a decline in business and were forced to vacate.  his longtime law firm had closed in February due to economic conditions.

Man who knew in in Dallas said he was a guitar player in a cover band, nice guy, no connection at all to terrorism.

*Tags
  • Acts like terrorist
  • Asian suspect (Indian)
  • Drugs marijuana: reports of heavy pot use in DeSai's apartment...strong marijuana odor around his unit
  • Expensive car (porsche) 
  • Fired or unemployed
  • Killed by police
  • Lawyer suspect
  • Mass shooting
  • Nazi allegience
  • Shooting at cars
  • Texas (Houston)
  • Terrorism ruled out

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heavy.com/news/.../nathan-desai-houston-mall-shooting-suspect-dead-name-victims/
4 days ago - Nathan DeSai shot six people outside of a Houston strip mall on ... to say that the shooting is not related to terrorism when asked by reporters, ...
Nathan DeSai, 46, identified by Houston officials as the gunman, died after a shootout with police. He was wearing an old German military uniform adorned with Swastikas, KPRC-TV reports.

The gunfire broke out about 6:30 a.m. local time outside of Randall’s grocery store in the southwest area of the city. The attack then continued at the Weslayan Plaza strip mall.

more weapons were found inside the car. ABC Houston reports that DeSai had a .45 semi-automatic handgun and a .45 Tommy Gun as well as 2,600 rounds of live ammo. He shot at officers during the September 26 shooting but didn’t hit any of them

Authorities do not believe there are any other suspects in the attack and a motive has not yet been determined.

Police Found Nazi Paraphernalia During a Search of DeSai’s Apartment & Porsche

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Rick Bagley @ABC13Bagley

Nazi materials found inside a car investigated at scene of SW Houston shooting rampage: http://abc13.co/2cx3zYL

2:59 PM - 26 Sep 2016 


In addition to the German military uniform he was wearing, police found Nazi paraphernalia in Nathan DeSai’s car and at his apartment, KPRC-TV reports.

Houston Police Chief Martha Montalvo said she was not ready to say that the shooting is not related to terrorism when asked by reporters, according to KPRC. But Mayor Sylvester Turner said there is no remaining credible threat to to the community and “there does not appear to be any connection to a terrorist act,” KHOU-TV reports.

DeSai had previous incidents involving police, according to KHOU.- argued with roofer

PD said at a press conference just after the attack that the gunman was a disgruntled lawyer who had “issues concerning firm.” According to Yelp, DeSai was a lawyer with Kenneth McDaniel at McDaniel & DeSai LLP. DeSai specialized in family law and criminal cases, felonies and misdemeanors.

 his LinkedIn page, DeSai writes under his name, “Nathan DeSai no longer has any affiliation with Kenneth P. McDaniel.” He also writes, “McDaniel & DeSai LLP closed and unwound.” The landlord for the pair’s office told KHOU’s Drew Karedes that the firm had a decline in business and were forced to vacate.

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October 3, 2016  EXCLUSIVE: West U shooting victim has emotional homecoming with ...   Inside the life of shooting suspect Nathan Desai. HPD officers take down shooting ... DeSai showed dramatic changes over past months. HPD officers take down ...

Washington Post - Timeline | Facebook
Houston shooter wore Nazi emblems, drove a Porsche, carried 2,600 rounds of ammo, police say
Police shot and killed Nathan DeSai Monday after he opened fire on commuters in Houston. A search of the scene and his apartment turned up an assortment of…
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Haley Swilling Yup, just an Indian guy, so the news will move on.
Patricia Mc Indian guy, funny, he's not Aryan lolololol. He'd be considered a black by Hitler.
Vinnie Scardilli I wonder if there will be looting and fires and murders in Houston tonight by the white lives matter movement?
Ron Smith I'm from Houston...he practice the Hindu religion.
Sunil Chandramouli Yes, and we immediately disown Indians doing anything negative as "not Indian" or "who?". Heard anyone speak of the UCLA shooter? My point exactly.
Chris Whitehead Patricia Mc technically I think Indians are aryan, just don't tell the nazis
ayesh Vallabhdas Ratangaria Guys am a hindu and I see this very differentely. First, Desai is an indian name,or close to hindu Second, the Nazi emblem is our religious emblem just with four dots in between...See More

Kathleen Michelle "Police added that the shooting did not appear to be an act of terrorism"??? How is a Nazi-emblem clad gunman shooting commuters at random not a terrorist? How is the concept of domestic terrorism still not clear in this country?

23 hours ago - FSSP Latin Mass Traditionalist/Nazi/Distributist Lawyer Nathan DeSai Goes On A Shooting Rampage Wounds Nine & Is Shot Dead By The Cops! Finally a GK ...

Well he's not a Muslim, u know he doesn't meet the criteria

Sean Epstein his father Prakash DeSai, a retired geologist.

Dylan Stillwood "Police added that the shooting did not appear to be an act of terrorism."  Seriously, don't journalists have any defined criteria for using a word as loaded as "terrorism?" I don't care what the police said. Newspapers have style guides -- I refuse to believe that the Washington Post has a formal position on the Oxford comma but not on when you call something terrorism. If you're wearing the uniform of a political tendency while shooting people in public, surely the word has to be on the table, right? Sure, maybe he just snapped and *happened* to be a Nazi enthusiast. But he if had happened to shout "Allahu akbar" while shooting, I think we can take an educated guess about how it would be covered.

September 26, 2016  DeSai showed dramatic changes over past months | abc13.com Sep 26, 2016 - Described as normally "sweet" and "friendly," Nathan DeSai's neighbors noticed adramatic change in recent months. On August 4, roofers ...August 4, roofers were working above his West University condo. DeSai apparently believed someone was trying to break in -- and confronted the workers with a gun, according to the condo's property manager.  "It was a several-months long roofing project and we got a call from the roofer saying that one of the residents had come out waving an assault rifle at them,  "   in a letter to DeSai: "We have received reports that you are causing a nuisance to some of the residents," the August 5 letter obtained by abc13 read. "Please take steps to correct this issue. Displaying a firearm for any purpose other than transporting it to your unit is prohibited." in  DeSai's car, a notebook emblazoned with a swastika was found in his bag. There was apparently more Nazi gear in his apartment. "We did find some old nazi emblem and also some other paraphernalia where he lived," Houston police homicide detective Dwane Ready said. ...former client who had been in his apartment said desai collected old weapons but never saw any Nazi material... reports of heavy pot use in DeSai's apartment. "The information we would hear from other owners is that there was a marijuana odor that was pretty strong coming from his unit," Delgado said "We had numerous complaints about that."


Houston Lawyer Shopping Center Shooting – Ponder Cove  www.pondercove.com/houston-lawyer-shopping-center-shooting/  At 6:30 in the morning Nathan Desai showed up to a crowded Houston Plaza and began shooting with what was described as a Tommy Gunn. He also ...

Man in military uniform with Nazi symbol injures 9 in Houston shooting ...
www.foxnews.com/.../as-many-as-7-may-be-wounded-in-houston-sh...
Fox News Channel6 days ago - The shooter was identified as attorney Nathan DeSai, FOX26 ... said on Monday evening that there did not appear to be any nexus to terrorism.

Houston Shooter Nathan Desai Found To Be Wearing Nazi ...
www.zerohedge.com/.../bodies-ground-least-7-injured-houston-police-wa...
Zero Hedge6 days ago - Desai's father confirmed to ABC that his son Nathan did own .... all the US jobs and now they go and start stealing the muslim terrorist jobs too!

Houston shooter wore Nazi emblems, drove a Porsche, carried 2,600 ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../houston-shooter-wore-nazi-em...
The Washington Post5 days ago - Police shot and killed Nathan DeSai on Monday after the gunman ... Police added that the shooting did not appear to be an act of terrorism.

Nathan DeSai Of Houston, Texas: Facebook 'Muslim' Lawyer Buzz ...
www.inquisitr.com/.../nathan-desai-of-houston-texas-facebook-muslim-lawyer-buzz-p...
6 days ago - Nathan is being described as a disgruntled lawyer who took his anger out on other people. DeSai isn't being viewed as a terrorist at this time.

Who is Nathan Desai's Wife? - DailyEntertainmentNews.com
dailyentertainmentnews.com/breaking-news/who-is-nathan-desais-wife/
6 days ago - Nathan Desai has been identified as the man who shot at least six people at a ... Latest updates say Desai has no connection to terrorism and ...

9 People Wounded in Houston Shooting Spree -- Suspect Shot, Killed ...
www.breitbart.com/.../multiple-people-shot-houston-suspect-shot-killed...
Breitbart News6 days ago - Besides that, Nathan Desai acted very unprofessional by asking me (a paying client) out for ... She would not confirm if the shooter is a terrorist.


SEVEN INJURED in Houston Shooting; Suspect - Nathan Desai ...
www.thegatewaypundit.com/.../seven-injured-houston-shooting-suspect-taken-police-...
4 days ago - Suspect identified as Nathan Desai, a local attorney. ....About 154,000 results (0.51 seconds)
The Dallas Morning News
3 days ago - Nathan DeSai, a lawyer whom police identified Tuesday as the gunman, ... he lived in Dallas; no way his actions related to religious terrorism. Gateway Pundit: The thing is, Islamic terrorists come in all sorts of colors, making it all the more difficult to ...

comments: speculation he could be muslim: 










[crazy speculation ]Houston Shooter is a Muslim Lawyer Houston Shooter is a Muslim Lawyer Committed JIHAD cause he was mad about getting fired this is a moderate Muslim or was he Radical already!











Houston Shooter Nathan Desai Found To Be Wearing Nazi ...
www.zerohedge.com/.../bodies-ground-least-7-injured-houston-police-wa...
Zero Hedge4 days ago - Desai's father confirmed to ABC that his son Nathan did own .... all the US jobs and now they go and start stealing the muslim terrorist jobs too!

Man in military uniform with Nazi symbol injures 9 in Houston shooting ...
www.foxnews.com/.../as-many-as-7-may-be-wounded-in-houston-sh...
Fox News Channel4 days ago - The shooter was identified as attorney Nathan DeSai, FOX26 ... said on Monday evening that there did not appear to be any nexus to terrorism.

Porsche-driving lawyer was Houston shooter - USA Today
www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/...nathan-desai...9.../91161506/



USA Today3 days ago - Investigators on Tuesday identified the shooter as Nathan DeSai and ... a trade mission to Cuba, said there were no apparent ties to terrorism.

9 People Wounded in Houston Shooting Spree -- Suspect Shot, Killed ...
www.breitbart.com/.../multiple-people-shot-houston-suspect-shot-killed...
Breitbart News4 days ago - Besides that, Nathan Desai acted very unprofessional by asking me (a paying client) out for ... She would not confirm if the shooter is a terrorist.

Why did Nathan Desai Houston lawyer shoot nine people at strip mall ...
scallywagandvagabond.com/.../nathan-desai-houston-lawyer-weslayan-plaza-strip-mal...
4 days ago - What led to Nathan Desai a Houston lawyer going on a shooting spree ... that the shooting didn't appear to have any connection to terrorism.

Nathan DeSai Of Houston, Texas: Facebook 'Muslim' Lawyer Buzz ...
www.inquisitr.com/.../nathan-desai-of-houston-texas-facebook-muslim-lawyer-buzz-p...
4 days ago - Nathan is being described as a disgruntled lawyer who took his anger out on other people. DeSai isn't being viewed as a terrorist at this time.

Who is Nathan Desai's Wife? - DailyEntertainmentNews.com
dailyentertainmentnews.com/breaking-news/who-is-nathan-desais-wife/
4 days ago - Nathan Desai has been identified as the man who shot at least six people at a ... Latest updates say Desai has no connection to terrorism and ...

Houston gunman who wounded 9 previously worked for Dallas ...
www.dallasnews.com › News › Crime
 Dallas Morning News3 days ago - Nathan DeSai, a lawyer whom police identified Tuesday as the gunman, ... He seemed like a pretty normal guy to me. He wasn't like an angry person or vicious," said defense attorney Michael Lowe, who had worked with DeSai in the Dallas County District Attorney's Office about 14 years ago.

Michael Lowe @dallasjustus  #HoustonShooting I knew Niren"Nathan"Desai when he lived in Dallas; no way his actions related to religious terrorism. Lowe said he, DeSai and another prosecutor had a cover band called "Brain Clouds" that would play at bars, clubs and parties. "He was a very good guitar player. He could also sing really well,"

 began to draw attention to himself. He was accused of pointing an assault-style rifle at roofers working in the complex and sending an email to the complex's managers in which he said he would "intimidate his way" to ensuring water pressure problems at his unit were fixed.
His father said DeSai was worried that his new law practice was not going well; his longtime law firm had closed in February due to economic conditions.

Daily Misfortune Monday, September 26, 2016

Daily Misfortune Monday, September 26, 2016 --- ===
Monthly Misfortune September 2016 --- ===

List of incidents of terror which could be accidents, crimes, or terrorist attacks.

Headlines:
  1. Colombian conflict Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos and FARC guerrilla leader Rodrigo Londoño, also known as Timochenko, sign apeace accord 
  2. Mass Shooting 1 killed 9 injured United States Houston Asian Indian gunman and disgruntled lawyer Nathan Desai  wearing a Nazi uniform opened fire on a strip mall, injuring 9 people  before he was shot dead by police. 
  3. A study published in Nature finds the Earth's surface is warmer than it has been in about 120,000 years, and is locked into eventually hitting its hottest mark in more than 2 million years. (Phys.org)(Nature)(Nature)
  4. Terrorist Attacks  type / killed / injured / location / details / perpetrator  Explosion 0 11 Iraq Mosul, Iraq 11 children were injured by an unknown explosion and gas release.[123] Islamic State(suspected) Iraqi Civil War (2014–present)
  5. Landmine 1 3 Nigeria Maiduguri,Nigeria The Nigerian Army lost 1 officer and 3 soldiers to a landmine and ambush by the Boko Haram on Sunday.[124] Boko Haram Boko Haram insurgency
  6. Grenade Attack 0 5 India Anantnag,Kashmir, India 5 CRPF soldiers were injured in a grenade attack by militants in south Kashmir's Kulgam district today, police said.[125] Unknown Militants 2016 Kashmir unrest
  7. Bombing 4 10 Turkey Mardin Province, Turkey A bomb killed four turkish soldiers and injuried 10 others.[126] PKK (suspected) Kurdish–Turkish conflict
  8. Executions 5 0 Egypt Sheikh Zuweid, Egypt Egyptian officials say Islamic State militants have killed five Egyptian civilians and dumped their bodies, wearing orange jumpsuits, in a restive corner of the Sinai Peninsula.[127] Islamic State Sinai insurgency
  9. Shooting 2 0 MaliTimbuktu,Mali A Mali Military gard and his cousin were killed in their house by terrorists.[128] AQIM (suspected) Northern Mali conflict
  10. 26 Shooting,bombing 4-8 (+25) Unknown Nigeria Borno andKaduna, Nigeria The Nigerian Army has suffered fresh setbacks in the fight against terrorists and gunmen with several soldiers and support staff killed during separate incidents in Borno and Kaduna States.[129] Boko Haram Boko Haram insurgency

Detail:
    1. Colombian conflict Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos and FARC guerrilla leader Rodrigo Londoño, also known as Timochenko, sign apeace accord in Cartagena, ending the longest running armed conflict in the Western Hemisphere. The final agreement will be submitted to popular ratification in a referendum on October 2.(Reuters)
    2. 9 wounded (6 shot  3 by flying debris) suspect shot and killed. An Asian Indian gunman Nathan DeSai opened fire in southwest Houston in a Nazi-style military uniform opens fire at a Houston shopping center and injures nine people. He owned an expensive Porsche car and lived in the community and reportedly a disgruntled lawyer who had issues with his law firm. Responding police kill the shooter afterwards. (Fox News) Houston gunman's rampage ends with suspect dead - USA Today USA Today A disgruntled Houston lawyer on a pre-dawn shooting rampage wounded nine people Monday before he was fatally shot by police officers ...   Porsche-driving lawyer was Houston shooter USA TODAY‎ Six were shot, three others suffered injuries from flying glass before gunman was killed. Houston shooting: Nine injured, suspect dead - CNN.com  Nathan DeSai has been identified as the shooter who opened fire in southwestHouston, the mayor says. Police say the suspect died in a ...Houuston shooting wounds nine people, gunman killed by police  The Washington Post4 days ago - A gunman in Houston wounded nine people Monday morning before being shot to death by police, Houston Gunman With Nazi Emblem Injures 9 Before Being Killed by ...lawyer wearing a military uniform with a Nazi emblem and armed with two guns and nearly 2,600 rounds of ammunition opened fire on random passers-by in Houston early Monday, injuring nine before he was killed by the police, the authorities said.  Houston lawyer shoots nine, is killed by police | Reuters Reuters police bomb squad secured the shooter's car, which contained more than 2,600 rounds of ammunition. Police said a handgun was found ... Houston shooting: Gunman who fired at motorists was "aiming to kill ... CBS News  lawyer who had numerous weapons randomly shot at drivers in a Houston neighborhood Monday morning, hitting ...
    3. A study published in Nature finds the Earth's surface is warmer than it has been in about 120,000 years, and is locked into eventually hitting its hottest mark in more than 2 million years. (Phys.org)(Nature)(Nature)
    Terrorist Attacks  type / killed / injured / location / details / perpetrator 
    1. Explosion 0 11 Iraq Mosul, Iraq 11 children were injured by an unknown explosion and gas release.[123] Islamic State(suspected) Iraqi Civil War (2014–present)
    2. Landmine 1 3 Nigeria Maiduguri,Nigeria The Nigerian Army lost 1 officer and 3 soldiers to a landmine and ambush by the Boko Haram on Sunday.[124] Boko Haram Boko Haram insurgency
    3. Grenade Attack 0 5 India Anantnag,Kashmir, India 5 CRPF soldiers were injured in a grenade attack by militants in south Kashmir's Kulgam district today, police said.[125] Unknown Militants 2016 Kashmir unrest
    4. Bombing 4 10 Turkey Mardin Province, Turkey A bomb killed four turkish soldiers and injuried 10 others.[126] PKK (suspected) Kurdish–Turkish conflict
    5. Executions 5 0 Egypt Sheikh Zuweid, Egypt Egyptian officials say Islamic State militants have killed five Egyptian civilians and dumped their bodies, wearing orange jumpsuits, in a restive corner of the Sinai Peninsula.[127] Islamic State Sinai insurgency
    6. Shooting 2 0 MaliTimbuktu,Mali A Mali Military gard and his cousin were killed in their house by terrorists.[128] AQIM (suspected) Northern Mali conflict
    7. 26 Shooting,bombing 4-8 (+25) Unknown Nigeria Borno andKaduna, Nigeria The Nigerian Army has suffered fresh setbacks in the fight against terrorists and gunmen with several soldiers and support staff killed during separate incidents in Borno and Kaduna States.[129] Boko Haram Boko Haram insurgency
    8. 26 Shooting 0 (+1) 9 United States Houston,United States A man wearing a Nazi uniform opened fire on a strip mall, injuring 9 people (some critically) before he was shot dead by police.[130]








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    Thursday, September 29, 2016

    Hoboken Train Crash Likely Not Deliberate Terrorism

    Hoboken Train Crash Likely Not Deliberate Terrorism --- ===

    September 29, 2016 Hoboken Train Crash Likely Not Deliberate Terrorism Commuter train without explanation suddenly throttles up as it is about to stop and crashes into the train station, killing a woman on the platform and injuring scores. Authorities immediately rule out any connection to terrorism or deliberate crash. There is no problem with train, tracks or the driver.  The drive who cooperates with authorities says he remembers approaching at 10 mph, but cannot remember anything while the throttles were manually pushed forward and train speeded up to 20 mph and brakes hit at the last instant before the crash. As deliberate operation has been ruled out there is no possible or obvious explanation for how the train could have speeded up.

    Media says driver was released from hospital. Even the White House announced no links to terrorism, he is average old white guy American. Investigators found nothing pointing to a deliberate crash. Train driver says that he remembers approaching at normal 10 mph, then doesn't remember anything until after the crash. Investigators find that for some reason the throttle was increased to half speed causing the train to speed up before the brakes were applied by the driver at the last instant. The only way for the throttle to increase is for the driver to deliberately speed up the train.

    U.S. investigators will look at whether the fatal NJ Transit train crash was a terrorist act but no signs point to that being a

    But the most obvious explanation is the the driver for some reason deliberately drove into the station and did not hit the brakes, assuming nothing was wrong with brakes, driver, or tracks. Same as Germanwings, and Amtrack too-fast curve. Authorities never admit this is most obvious cause of a crash.

    there is  no reason to believe this crash was a deliberate act (ridiculous, of course there is lot s of reason to believe...) 
     "I think a deliberate act has been ruled out, based on what we know.”.
    "agency officials believe it was likely not a deliberate act of terrorism."

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    Why do authorities not speculate that the driver deliberately moved the throttle to accelerate and then hit the brake?

    Oct 6  Hoboken train was traveling twice the speed limit when it crashed ...
    www.nj.com/.../nj_transit_train_that_crashed_in_hoboken_was_going.html
    NJ.com The throttle had been in the idle position but moved to a No. 4 position as the trainaccelerated. Just before the crash, the throttle returned to the ...

    Oct 6  New Jersey train was going twice the speed limit before it crashed - LA ...
    www.latimes.com/.../la-na-new-jersey-train-crash-20161006-snap-...
    Los Angeles Times -train sped up and was going twice the 10 mph speed limit just before it crashed  federal investigators said Thursday.  The train's engineer hit the emergency brake less than a second before the train slammed into a bumping post at the end of the rail line, went airborne and hurtled into the station's waiting area, according to information released by the National Transportation Safety Board.... from a data recorder and video. the train was traveling at 8 mph and the throttle was in the idle position less ...train was traveling at 8 mph and the throttle was in the idle position less than a minute before the Sept. 29 crash. Approximately 38 seconds before the crash, the throttle was increased and reached a maximum of about 21 mph, the agency said. The throttle went back to idle and the engineer hit the emergency brake less than a second before the crash,  New Jersey Transit implemented a new rule...  The conductor must join the engineer whenever a train pulls into Hoboken Terminal

    Oct 6 NJ Transit Train in Deadly Crash Hit Hoboken Platform at 21 MPH ...
    www.nbcnews.com/.../nj-transit-train-deadly-crash-hit-hoboken-platfo...
    NBCNews.com  A few moments later — 38 seconds before impact — the train's throttle was moved from idle to a position that caused it to pick up speed.

    Sept 30  No evidence of terrorism in Hoboken train crash, White House says ...
    www.nj.com/.../white_house_no_evidence_of_terrorism_in_hoboken_tr.html
    NJ.com U.S. investigators will look at whether the fatal NJ Transit train crash was a terrorist act but no signs point to that being a ...

    https://a.msn.com/r/2/BBx7aam Throttle was increased from idle to half speed, sped up to 20 mph, brake hit only just before crash, no explanation, now 2nd crew has to sit next to driver when stopping at station. No mention of deliberate crash

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miGgEhWdwb0  New jersey governor is among those saying there was nothing intentional .

    Governor Chris Christie Gives Update On NJ Train Crash | MSNBC
    no reason to suspect intentional was there a medical event?

    Four Nines Fine1 week ago
    Islam had NOTHING to do with this!

    Chris christie is probably responsible for this train wreck just like the bridge gate scandal
    Twostones001 week ago
    This is what happens when Transportation workers are subject to irregular work rest cycles.  The fall asleep and the accident occurs.  Fatigue is a real factor in the transportation industries.

    rey82rey821 week ago
    Our infrastructure is crumbling.

    Darth Mal6 days ago
    Engineer was texting.

    twelge151 week ago
    Let's be sure Christie didn't shut down that train track lane first.

    Great Fish1 week ago
    MSNBC really wants the narrative NO TERRORISM.  Would cast weakness light on Obama their hero and fearful leader....

    Another good ol False Flag graciously offered by your gov.

    N.J. Train Crash 'Isn’t A Deliberate Act' | MSNBC they are going to look at conductor, people are worried about terrorism  Published on Sep 29, 2016
    Witnesses said that the N.J. train jumped the tracks, went through the wall and crashed into the waiting area in Hoboken terminal. Law enforcements said that this "is not a deliberate act" and that it was an accident. The cause of the crash is still unknown, but this is a “mass casualty situation.” What about heart attack (the train throttle was manually pushed to accelerate, then brake was hit)

    astek1 week ago
    Meanwhile on Fox: Muslim hacker derails train
     Polish teen derails tram after hacking train network • The Register

    Siouxsi Sioux1 week ago
    YOU SHOULDN'T SAY THIS WASN'T A DELIBERATE ACT. THIS JUST OCCURED. LIBERAL'S ALWAYS TRY TO COVER EVERY POTENTIAL TERROR SITUATION SO AMERICA IS KEPT IN THE DARK. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED. IRRESPONSIBLE NEWS IS ANOTHER REASON YOUR RATINGS ARE IN THE BASEMENT.

    ISLAMIC MUSLIM TERRORIST

    Riiiight... Accident can be firmly concluded before the investigators have even arrived at the site because "nothing points to a deliberate act"! Oh, sure... God! I'm so tired of these idiots trying to control and manipulate people by lies, falsehoods and unfounded claims! Of course there's something "pointing to a deliberate act", fools! First and foremost your own denial there of. Nobody would ever make such an inane claim before any investigation unless circumstances already had made the thought of a deliberate act enter your mind, gdi!

    Great Fish1 week ago
    Nobody trusts the LIB Press....they will lie to keep DEMS in power. FBI waited months to publish real reason the PULSE CLUB killinugs were terrorism

    Was The Hoboken Train Crash Terrorism? People Are Wondering ...
    https://www.bustle.com/.../186768-was-the-hoboken-train-crash-terrorism-people-are-...
      On Thursday morning a NJ Transit commuter train crashed into a ... No initial signsHoboken train crash was terror related or deliberate act ...

    Massive Train Crash Hoboken NJ | Culture of Life News https://emsnews.wordpress.com/2016/09/29/massive-train-crash-hoboken-nj/
    . I am betting on 'terror attack' considering that ISIS and others said they ... it has to be deliberate, that is, the train was deliberately sped up to ...

    No evidence of terrorism in Hoboken train crash, White House says ...
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    NJ.com4 days ago - WASHINGTON — U.S. investigators will look at whether the fatal NJ Transit train crash was a terrorist act but no signs point to that being a ...

    Hoboken Train Crash Causes Mass Destruction and Injuries
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    Clutch Law enforcement officials said there are no initial signs that the accident was terror related or a deliberate act, but they stressed it was very early in the investigation.
    Hoboken Crash Train Engineer Doesn't Recall Accident
    People Magazine‎ - 1 day agoHoboken Train Engineer Has No Memory of Deadly Crash, Officials Say. 0SHARES. Reprint.

    N.J. Transit Engineer Has No Memory of Fatal Train Crash, Officials Say
    New York Times‎ - 2 days ago
    Engineer Doesn't Recall Train's Speed Before Deadly Crash: NTSB
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    Train engineer doesn't know what caused Hoboken crash, NTSB says ...
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    NJ.com2 days ago - HOBOKEN — The engineer in Thursday's fatal train crash in ... But, she said, that was the last the engineer could recall about the accident, before he woke ... Dinh-Zarr said the conductor on board told investigators he did not ...

    (Why do we assume he "lost control" of the train? ) Expert On Hoboken Crash: 'Why Didn't He Have Control Of The Train ... WCBS‑TV  CBS2's Chris Wragge and Mary Calvi interview railroad engineering expert Gus ... Expert On Hoboken Crash: 'Why Didn't He Have Control Of The Train? ... Recall the derailment in 2013 up in Spuyten Duyvel, where the rail engineer ... brakes, it's not going to stop the train because the train is out of control.

    NJ Transit Engineer Says He Doesn't Remember Fatal Hoboken Crash
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    Gothamist1 day ago - The engineer also told investigators that he recalls blowing the horn, ... The Hobokentracks are not equipped with Positive Train Control (PTC), ...

    Engineer Doesn't Recall Train's Speed Before Deadly Crash: NTSB ...
    www.nbcnewyork.com/.../NTSB-Hoboken-Train-Crash-Broken-Data-Recorder...
    WNBC2 days ago - Engineer Doesn't Recall Train's Speed Before Deadly Crash: NTSB ... questions about the Hoboken Terminal crash during a press conference held on Sept. ... "The engineer says he hasno memory of the accident," she said.

    NJ Transit Engineer Has No Memory of Fatal Train Crash, Officials Say
    www.nytimes.com/.../nj-transit-engineer-has-no-memory-of-fatal-t...
    The New York Times2 days ago - The engineer, Thomas Gallagher, also told investigators that the train was traveling about 10 miles an hour when it entered Hoboken Terminal, ...
    The engineer at the helm of a train that smashed into a New Jersey commuter rail terminal, killing a woman and injuring more than 100 others, told federal investigators he was going only 10 mph as he approached the station, but has has no memory of the crash, the National Transportation Safety Board said.  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/03/new-jersey-train-engineer-at-center-deadly-crash-says-cant-remember-incident.html (are they excluding the possibility of deliberate crash??)   old investigators that he was fully rested and that the train was operating properly Thursday morning remembered blowing the train's horn and looking at the speedometer as he pulled into the station and said the train was going 10 mph, Dinh-Zarr said. But, Gallagher told the investigators that he had no memory of the crash and only remembered waking up on the floor of the engineer's cab, she said. He runs his train into a wall and does not remember????  Wondering, if this joker is related to the Clintons.  They don't remember nothing either. Hulamula  Why not, the engineer in the Philly crash got away with playing dumb and stupid! engineer should say that he did not intend to crash...he was merely being "extremely careless". It worked for Mrs. Bill Clinton, and even the FBI should give him a similar pass.

    Hoboken train crash: Event recorder recovered - CNN.com
    www.cnn.com/2016/09/30/us/new-jersey-hoboken-train-crash/index.html
    CNN1 day ago - Train crashes in Hoboken, New Jersey 01:06 ... The NTSB also will want to interview two other members of the train's crew: a conductor and a ...

    Investigators interview engineer of crashed New Jersey train | Reuters
    www.reuters.com/article/us-new-jersey-traincrash-idUSKCN1213IS
    Reuters7 hours ago - Investigators had not previously been able to interview the driver, Thomas ... Trainservice remained suspended in and out of the Hoboken ...


    Hoboken Crash: Feds Begin Analyzing Recorder Data, Will Interview ...
    www.nbcnews.com/.../hoboken-crash-feds-begin-analyzing-recorder-d.
    NBCNews.com1 day ago - NJ train crash: Feds focus investigation on engineer, cameras, black box 2: ... involved in the crash: the engineer, a conductor and a brakeman.

    Investigators interview train operator in Hoboken accident - NewsWorks
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    1 day ago - Federal investigators trying to figure out the cause of the deadly rail crash at the Hobokenstation questioned the engineer Friday and hoped to ...

    NTSB Has yet to Interview Injured Engineer in Deadly Crash - ABC ...
    abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fatal-train-crash-investigators-seek-answers-424666671 day ago - NTSB Has yet to Interview Injured Engineer in Deadly Crash. ... engineer in the deadlyHoboken train crash because of his injuries Friday and ... The engineer, conductor and brakeman "have been very cooperative," she said.

    Barstool Sports Interview With Jay Danahy, Passenger On The ...
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    3 days ago - Barstool Sports Interview With Jay Danahy, Passenger On The Hoboken Train ... Thoughts and prayers with everyone involved in the Hoboken crash this .... death in an autopilot car comes as driver was watching Harry Potter, ...

    Investigators interview engineer of crashed New Jersey train - Yahoo
    https://www.yahoo.com/.../wreckage-blocks-access-second-data-recorder-jerse...
    Yahoo!7 hours ago - Investigators had not previously been able to interview the driver, Thomas ... Trainservice remained suspended in and out of the Hoboken ...

    Expert On Hoboken Crash: 'Why Didn't He Have Control Of The Train ...
    newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/09/29/hoboken-train-crash-interview/



    WCBS‑TV2 days ago - CBS2's Chris Wragge and Mary Calvi interview railroad engineering expert ... here or whether it's with the conductor or with the train itself…

    Commuter Train Crashes Into Hoboken, New Jersey, Station, Killing 1: Officials
    NBCNews.com‎ - Commuter Train Crashes Into Hoboken, New Jersey, Station, Killing 1: While the investigation is in its preliminary stages, there was no initial sign of terrorism or that it was a deliberate act, two local law enforcement officials said.  The Hoboken station — a historic facility and NJ Transit's fifth-busiest — was the site of another crash on a different train line that left more than 30 hurt in 2011.

    Hoboken train crash kills 1, injures 108, Gov. Chris Christie says
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    Hoboken train crash kills 1, injures 108, Gov. Chris Christie says
    www.cnbc.com/.../major-train-accident-occurs-in-hoboken-nj-injuries-reported...
    CNBC
    28 mins ago - A commuter train crashed into the station at a major transit hub for Manhattan at the height of morning rush hour, killing at least one person and injuring 108 including the engineer, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Thursday afternoon. New Jersey Transit said the crash ...

    Hoboken Train Crashes Through Wall Of NJ Station — Get Details ...
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    Hollywood Life
    6 hours ago - A train crashed into the terminal of the New Jersey Transit Hoboken ... There is reportedly no reason to believe this crash was a deliberate act ...

    What caused the Hoboken train crash?
    www.lohud.com/story/news/...hoboken-train-crash/91269290/
    The Journal News The exact cause of Thursday's Hoboken train crash is still unknown ... "I think adeliberate act has been ruled out, based on what we know.”.

    Hoboken train crash: 1 dead, 75 injured - CNN.com
    www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/us/new-jersey-hoboken-train-crash/
    CNN   A New Jersey Transit train crashed into a platform in Hoboken during Thursday morning's rush-hour commute, at least 1 dead and 75 others ...

    Witnesses recall chaos amid deadly train crash - Courier-Post
    www.courierpostonline.com/story/...train-crash-hoboken.../91261094/
    Courier‑Post  NJ Transit train crash in Hoboken killed one, injured at least 75 and ... agency officials believe it was likely not a deliberate act of terrorism.

    Massive Train Crash Hoboken NJ | Culture of Life News
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    5 hours ago - New Jersey Train Crash Video Footage - YouTube Train crashes in New ... it has to be deliberate, that is, the train was deliberately sped up to ...

    100 injured in Hoboken train crash - Asbury Park Press
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    Asbury Park Press An NJ Transit train crashed at Hoboken Terminal on Sept. ... indicating that agency officials believe it was likely not a deliberate act of terrorism.

    N.J. train accident in Hoboken terminal | MSNBC
    www.msnbc.com/stephanie.../n-j-train-accident-in-hoboken-terminal-775598147540
    Law enforcements said that this "is not a deliberate act" and that it was an ...

    One dead, over 100 injured after NJ Transit train hits Hoboken station ...


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    6 hours ago - ... were injured – many critically – when a train crashed into Hoboken ... agency officials believe it was likely not a deliberate act of terrorism.

    Daily Misfortune Saturday, September 24, 2016

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        Wednesday, September 28, 2016

        Recep Cetin Murders Girlfriend Mother and Friend in Turkey


        August 25, 2011 murder Recep Cetin Murders Girlfriend Mother and Friend in Turkey Recep Cetin was convicted of stabbing Marion Graham, 54, and her 53-year-old friend Cathy Dinsmore in western Turkey from Ireland in August 2011 after they confronted him about his boyfriend relationship with Graham's 15 year old daughter Shannon. He claimed he killed two women for love including his girlfriend's mother because he feared losing her. "I was young and naive. I was in love," he said. "I did not plan this in advance as the prosecution claim. I committed the murders under severe provocation. I did it so I would not lose my girlfriend." Ms Graham and her friend Ms Dinsmore were said to have tried to warn Recep Cetin away from Shannon, who was 15 at the time. He had admitted admitted stabbing the victims but denied murder claiming he was mentally ill. his father Eyup, who is also accused of murder claimed his innocence 43-year-old repeated earlier claims that secret witness evidence placing him at the scene of the crime was contradictory.


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        http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/verdict-in-recep-cetin-murder-trial-due-in-turkey-1.1509388

        Verdict in Recep Cetin murder trial due in Turkey - The Irish Times
        www.irishtimes.com/.../verdict-in-recep-cetin-murder-trial-due-in-turkey...
        The Irish TimesAug 29, 2013 - Recep Cetin (22), who has admitted killing Marion Graham and Cathy Dinsmore (both 53), had claimed he was mentally ill at a hearing in ...

        Turkish waiter Recep Cetin found guilty of murdering 2 Irish women in ...
        www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Turkish-waiter-Recep-Cetin-guilty-murdering-2-Ir...
        Daily MailOct 2, 2013 - Recep Cetin has been jailed for life for stabbing Marion Graham, 54, and her ... Marion Graham, 54, and her 53-year-old friend Cathy Dinsmore in August 2011. ... He had admitted admittedstabbing the victims but denied murder. ... Relatives of both women including Shannon, who was aged 15 when her ...

        Turkey murders: Recep Cetin told Marion Graham 'I'll kill you if you ...
        www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Turkey-murders-Recep-Cetin-told-Marion-Graha...
        Daily MailAug 20, 2011 - Best friends Marion Graham and Kathy Dinsmore, both 53, found dead in forest ... Suspect: Suspect Recep Celik, left, is accused of killing the mother of his .... It is believed that a 17-year-old has confessed to attacking the two ...... Sunday Morning as Charles Osgood steps down after22 years She's been a ...
        several years Miss Graham, Miss Dinsmore and Shannon have been regular visitors to Turkey, where Miss Graham’s family own a holiday home in the popular seaside resort of Kusadasi.
        Shannon and Alex started dating after she and her mother visited the restaurant where he worked.
        Like many naive British girls who find love on holiday in Turkey, she was bowled over by his attention and soon found what started as a holiday romance turned into a marriage proposal.

        d the Turkish youth seemed to be ‘very possessive’ and ‘desperate’ to marry Shannon.
        The woman, who asked not to be named, said: ‘He used to write to Shannon on Facebook when she was back in Northern Ireland. If she didn’t message him regularly enough, he would be messaging her asking why.

        ... Thursday, Celik sent Shannon on a boat tour off Kusadasi while he offered to take her mother and Miss Dinsmore on a sightseeing tour of Izmir, 60 miles away.
        They travelled there by taxi. Once in the city, Celik collected his father’s car and drove the women to a wooded area in Buca, a suburb of Izmir notorious locally as a crime hotspot, where he slashed their throats.
        Shannon raised the alarm yesterday after the two women failed to return from the trip.

        t after the women disappeared, Alex came back to Shannon saying they had all been kidnapped and he had a bad cut on his hand.

        Double murder suspect's plea to release his father - The Irish Sun
        www.thesun.ie/irishsol/.../Double-murder-suspects-plea-to-release-his-father.htm...
        The SunCetin, 22, has admitted to the killing of Marion Graham and Kathy Dinsmore, both 53, from Newry, Co Down in August 2011. But in a dramatic outburst he ...

        Recep Cetin guilty of murdering Marion Graham and Cathy Dinsmore ...
        www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk › News › Northern Ireland
        Belfast TelegraphOct 2, 2013 - A Turkish waiter has been found guilty of murdering two Irishwomen on holiday two years ago, it was ... Recep Cetin was convicted of stabbing Marion Graham, 54, and her 53-year-old friendCathy Dinsmore in Turkey in August 2011. ... He had admitted admitted stabbing the victims but denied murder.
        bodies of the women, both 53, were found in woods on the outskirts of Izmir in west Turkey in 2011. Both had suffered multiple stab wound

        his father Eyup, who is also accused of murder claimed his innocence 43-year-old repeated earlier claims that secret witness evidence placing him at the scene of the crime was contradictory.

        'I killed two women for love' – says Turkish waiter on trial for murder of ...
        www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk › News › Northern Ireland
        Belfast TelegraphSep 9, 2013 - He is also accused of murdering her friend Cathy Dinsmore ... Recep Cetin has alreadyadmitted killing Marion Graham and Cathy Dinsmore, in 2011. ... The 22-year-old, who had been dating Ms Graham's daughter, Shannon, ... The bodies of the women, both 53, were found in woods on the outskirts of ...

        Muslim Who Murdered 2 Women Complains Court is Treating Him ...
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        FrontPage MagazineFeb 23, 2013 - Recep Cetin (22) admitted the charges of murdering Irish nationals Marian Graham and Kathy Dinsmore, both 53 and from Newry, Co Down, at the Fifth High Criminal ... But the mediahas reported false allegations," he said. ... Shannon's mother, Marion Graham was not crazy about him dating her daughter.

        Man who admitted killing Irish women Marion Graham and Cathy ...
        www.irishmirror.ie › News › Irish News › Crime › CrimeSep 9, 2013 - Recep Cetin has already admitted killing Marion Graham and Cathy Dinsmore, from Co Down, in 2011. The 22-year-old, who had been dating Ms Graham's daughter, ... Ms Graham and her friend Ms Dinsmore were said to have tried to warn ... The bodies of the women, both 53, were found in woods on the ...

        I killed my girlfriend's mum because I feared I'd lose her, says waiter ...
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        The HeraldSep 10, 2013 - Recep Cetin (22), who has admitted killing Marion Graham and Cathy Dinsmore in 2011, said he regretted the incident. Both women, each ...

        Recep Cetin given two life sentences for murdering Marion Graham ...
        www.mirror.co.uk › News › World news
        Daily MirrorOct 2, 2013 - Guilty: Turkish man convicted of killing two Irish women ... Cetin has been handed a life sentence ... murders of Irish holiday-makers Marion Graham and Cathy Dinsmore. Recep Cetin, 22, was today given two whole life sentences – to be served ... Marion and Cathy, both 53 and from Co Down, were staying ...