Missing Malaysia MH370 777 Airliner Hijacking or Terrorism?
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March 7, 2014 Malaysia 777 Bound For Beijing Missing Over Vietnam A Malaysia Airlines 777 filled largely with Chinese passengers bound for Beijing disappeared from contact shortly after taking off before it was due to fly over Vietnam. There were two Iranian passengers using stolen passports, but they were soon cleared of any blame. Most believe that the plane was deliberately diverted in a manner avoiding radar and Thailand and Indonesia airspace, and probably crashed on auto-pilot when the engines ran out of fuel somewhere over the Indian Ocean based on satellite signals even though the crew apparently shut off satellite reporting of airplane conditions and location. Some believe the pilots were on a suicide mission to kill themselves and the passengers.
Disinformation: Missing Malaysia 777 Jet Conspiracy Theories Russian and Iran affiliated media including PressTV, Veterans Today, Rense, Matthias Chang, and former Delta pilot Field McConnell are blaming a scenario that the US and or Israel hijacked the plane by taking over the Boeing Uninterruptible autopilot like a drone, and flew it to Diego Garcia
Unconnected similar incident only months before, same type of plane, same airline, same pro-Russian, pro-Iran conspiracy theories blaming Israel or other government : 298 killed in airliner shoot down, likely by Russian backed forces July 17, 2014 Malaysian MH17 777 Airliner Shot Down Over Ukraine A Malaysian Boeing 777 crashed after being shot down at cruise altitude of 33,000 ft by a sophisticated Buk SA-11 missile system, killing all 283 passengers and 15 crew aboard .
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Scenarios
- Chinese: 153 of the 239 missing people were Chinese nationals.
- Deliberate: Malaysian authorities have still not ruled out mechanical problems, but say evidence suggests it was deliberately diverted from its scheduled route.
- Hijacked by Uyghur stolen passport passengers - they were from Iran. One passenger was Uyghur artist. Timing suggests attack could be in sympathy with train station stabbing attack, but no solid link other than most passengers were Chinese who have been targeted mostly by armed Uyghur upset over one thing or another.
- Hijacked by Iranian hijackers - thought they were just seeking refuge in Germany or visiting mother, but that could be cover story
- Flown into water after losing contact: no wreckage, but China see seismic event on sea floor, satellites spot possible wreckage, but nothing found there
- Pilots are in control of wayward plane - data system was shut down 20 minutes before losing contact and announcing good night. Then transponder was turned off
- Plane flown along waypoints over Malyasia towards Indian ocean - aircraft radar tracked by Malysia air force and onboard systems indicate plane flew for 4 hours after losing contact
- Plane is at bottom on Indian ocean - un-named US security official speculates
- Terrorism unlikely since nobody has claimed credit - several terrorist attacks such as Air India 182, Pan Am 103 where nobody claimed credit.
- Bomb exploded at loss of contact - new data says plane flew for hours, no confirmed wreckage found
- Plane landed at airstrip - nearly impossible
- Plane landed in water - possible but hard to hide
- Plane crashed into water / scuttled
- Plane hijacked for unknown future use
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From Fox News - Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 'disintegrated into confetti,' captain appears to have run ‘amok,' report says Jun 17, 2019 Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 'disintegrated into confetti,' captain appears to have run ‘amok,' report says https://www.foxnews.com/world/
Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370: Where Is It? - The Atlantic The designator for Malaysia Airlines is MH. ... His trainer was the pilot in command, a man named Zaharie Ahmad Shah, who at 53 ...... a hijacking from within where no forced entry is required—by a pilot who runs amok. .... shattered debris, that the airplane disintegrated into confetti when it hit the water.
MH370 pilot was "lonely and sad" and may have "run amok". - Mamamia MH370's "lonely and sad" pilot spent a lot of time "pacing empty rooms" ... According to an aviation specialist, the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was ... a “vicious spiral” before hitting the ocean and “disintegrated into confetti”.
MH370 Didn’t Just Disappear, It Was Caught in a Swamp of Corruption
https://amp.thedailybeast.com/mh370-didnt-just-disappear-it-was-caught-in-a-swamp-of-corruption
Rosmah Mansor, the wife of Najib Razak, the erstwhile prime minister of Malaysia.
Her husband’s annual salary was, officially, a modest $70,000. But in Malaysia, if you were the wife of any high government official, if you wanted something badly enough you could, apparently, be gratified with the help of a little looting of the public funds. at least $4.5 billion was diverted and laundered from the fund. Around $680 million is alleged to have ended up in Razak’s personal bank account. government selected the easiest targets to blame for the tragedy, the pilots. They staged a deliberately public raid on the home of the pilot, Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah. Soon after they suggested that Captain Shah had used a flight simulator on his home computer to rehearse a plan to hijack his own airplane. year later the government had to admit that it had found no evidence or motive for either of the pilots to have planned a mass murder-suicide.
MH370 captain was attempting suicide, aviation experts say
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/05/14/mh370-captain-was-attempting-suicide-aviation-experts-say.html
MH370: Malaysia Airlines' captain deliberately crashed plane in ...
https://www.independent.co.uk/.../mh370-malaysia-airlines-captain-deliberate-plane-c...
concluded that the captain of flight MH370 deliberately crashed the plane. ... Zaharie Amad Shah carefully planned a murder-suicide mission. ... Captain Simon Harvey, a British pilot who has flown the 777 widely in Asia, ...
MH370 captain was suicidal, aviation experts say | Fox News
www.foxnews.com/.../mh370-captain-was-attempting-suicide-aviation-experts-say.html1 day ago - MH370 captain was suicidal, aviation experts say ... went over his own hometown, Penang, Boeing 777 pilot and instructor Simon Hardy said.
MH370 mystery: Experts tell '60 Minutes' that Captain Zaharie Shaw ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../mh370-experts-think-theyve-finally-solved-the-mys...1 day ago - MH370 experts think they've finally solved the mystery of the ... Experts are now saying the crash was an act of premeditated murder and suicide. (Monica ... The experts believe Zaharie, the plane's pilot, was taking a final look.
Exclusive: MH370 Pilot Flew a Suicide Route on His Home Simulator ...
nymag.com/daily/.../2016/.../mh370-pilot-flew-suicide-route-on-home-simulator.html
Jul 22, 2016 - MH370 pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah. New York has obtained a confidential document from the Malaysian police investigation into the ...obtained a confidential document from the Malaysian police investigation into the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that shows that the plane’s captain, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, conducted a simulated flight deep into the remote southern Indian Ocean less than a month before the plane vanished under uncannily similar circumstances. The revelation, which Malaysia withheld from a lengthy public report on the investigation, is the strongest evidence yet that Zaharie made off with the plane in a premeditated act of mass murder-suicide.
The document presents the findings of the Malaysian police’s investigation into Zaharie. It reveals that after the plane disappeared in March of 2014, Malaysia turned over to the FBI hard drives that Zaharie used to record sessions on an elaborate home-built flight simulator. The FBI was able to recover six deleted data points that had been stored by the Microsoft Flight Simulator X program in the weeks before MH370 disappeared, according to the document. Each point records the airplane’s altitude, speed, direction of flight, and other key parameters at a given moment. The document reads, in part:
actual and the simulated flights were not identical, though, with the simulated endpoint some 900 miles from the remote patch of southern ocean area where officials believe the plane went down. Based on the data in the document, here’s a map of the simulated flight compared to the route searchers believe the lost airliner followed:
MH370 Malaysia Airlines Captain 'Deliberately Evaded Radar ...
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The captain of the MH370 Malaysia Airlines flight “deliberately evaded radar” and crashed the plane in a murder-suicide that killed 239 ... Using an interactive screen, Simon Hardy, a Boeing 777pilot and instructor, .
Mahathir taken to task over MH370 'remote takeover' theory, Malaysia ...
www.asiaone.com/malaysia/mahathir-taken-task-over-mh370-remote-takeover-theory
Mar 24, 2018 - PETALING JAYA - The Civil Aviation Authority of Malaysia has taken to task Tun DrMahathir Mohamad for saying that missing flight MH370 ...
https://www.thestar.com.my/.../mahathir-raises-remote-takeover-theory-in-mh370-my...
Mar 23, 2018 - People attending the fourth annual remembrance event for the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 in Kuala Lumpur on March 3, 2018.PHOTO: REUTERS. SYDNEY: Malaysia's veteran ex-leader Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad said Friday (March 23) that missing flight MH370 might have been taken ...
Possible that MH370 was taken over remotely, says Mahathir, SE Asia ...
https://www.straitstimes.com/.../possible-that-mh370-was-taken-over-remotely-says-m...
Mar 24, 2018 - SYDNEY • Missing flight MH370 might have been taken over remotely in a bid to foil a hijack, Malaysia's former leader Mahathir Mohamad said, ...
May 10, 2015 Senior pilot claims MH370 crashed 'deliberately' by pilot in act of suicide Business Standard Pilot Byron Bailey ...MH370 captain, Zaharie Shah, hid the plane from radar on purpose...The Daily Star reported...Flight Management System (FMS), which automatically maps the flight plan, had been overridden manually and reprogrammed towards the southern Indian Ocean... turned all communication equipment off .. if FMS had not been tampered with manually... would have flown itself to Beijing..out of the two pilots controlling MH370, only Shah had the ability to [change course]... [knowing no landing sites would lead to suicide]
March 25, 2014 Malaysia Airlines crash: Suicide mission theory of MH370 investigators
Sources close to investigation tell Telegraph that team working on MH370 mystery believe it was crashed deliberately. Flight MH370 crashed into the Indian Ocean in an apparent suicide mission, well-placed sources revealed have revealed... believe no malfunction or fire was capable of causing the aircraft’s unusual flight or the disabling of its communications system before it veered wildly off course on a seven-hour silent flight into the sea. An analysis of the flight’s routing, signalling and communications shows that it was flown “in a rational way”. An official source told The Telegraph that investigators believe “this has been a deliberate act by someone on board who had to have had the detailed knowledge to do what was done ... Nothing is emerging that points to motive.”
4/29/2014
The news follows these potential wreckage sites from yesterday:
A recreational pilot in America believes he has identified the wreckage of missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370.
Michael Hoebel, 60, of New York, spent hours trawling through thousands of images released to the public on crowd-sourcing website TomNod.
He came across a piece of debris floating under the water off the northeast coast of Malaysia and west of Songkhla in Thailand which he says perfectly matches the dimensions of the missing aircraft.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370-3471012#ixzz30HZJIZwy
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mirror.co.uk: Missing flight MH370 'found' by exploration company
A marine exploration company based in Australia claims it may have located the wreckage of Malaysia Airlines flight MH 370 - 3,000 miles away from where authorities have been looking.
According to Australian news Channel 7 News, the Adelaide-based company GeoResonance says its own private research has identified elements on the ocean floor in the Bay of Bengal consistent with material from a plane
According to Australian news Channel 7 News, the Adelaide-based company GeoResonance says its own private research has identified elements on the ocean floor in the Bay of Bengal consistent with material from a plane
search covered 2million sq km of the possible crash zone, using images obtained from satellites and aircraft.
Scientists focused their efforts north of MH370’s last known location, using more than 20 technologies to analyse the data including a nuclear reactor.
According to company spokesperson David Pope, “The technology that we use was originally designed to find nuclear warheads, submarines. Our team in the Ukraine decided we should try and help.”
GeoResonance experts compared their findings with images taken on March 5, three days before MH370 was reported missing – and they did not find what they had detected at that spot.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-flight-mh370-found-exploration-3470569#ixzz30HZ4FpGT
- CNN - 1 hour agoMalaysian officials play the last known words from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 in public for the first time.
- NBCNews.com - 53 minutes ago
- The Independent - 3 hours ago
More news for mh370
Missing flight MH370 wreckage 'identified' by American pilot
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The Daily Mirror20 hours ago - A recreational pilot in America believes he has identified the wreckage of missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370. Michael Hoebel, 60, of New York, spent hours ...Flight MH370 'found' live: Latest updates after American pilot ...
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The Daily Mirror8 hours ago - Flight MH370 live: Audio of final contact with missing Malaysia Airlines plane played in public for ... Missing flight MH370 wreckage 'identified' by American pilot.MH370 Wreckage Found: U.S. Pilot Claims to Discover ...
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10 hours ago - Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has recently announced the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has "entered a new phase," focusing on ...
4/23/2014
Aluminum piece with rivets that washed ashore is not part of the plane
New York Post - Looking at the landing someplace north theory again since there is no sign of the plane at the southern location. Maybe somebody placed a fake pinger as a red herring, But they think it is still unlikely some nation is hiding the plane when 20 countries are looking for it.
4/14/2014
Official: MH370 co-pilot had cell phone on http://cnn.it/1kn5AH4
4/12/2014
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/last-call-report-about-co-pilot-latest-bad-twist-jet-n78846
Last Call: Report About Co-Pilot Latest Bad Twist in Jet Mystery
A Malaysian official denied a report Saturday that the co-pilot of the doomed Malaysia Airlines flight made a “desperate” cellphone call before its demise, ..Malaysia’s New Straits Times, citing unidentified investigators, said they discovered co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid had placed a call when the plane was flying about 200 nautical miles northwest of Penang. Its low altitude allowed for a telecommunications tower to pick up the signal, according to the report...Malaysian official said Saturday he “doesn’t think this is true.”
The latest knocked-down report comes as an earlier New Straights Times report last month claimed the plane was flying at a low altitude to avoid being detected by radar.
“If it is some sort of manmade pinger, as they have described this — this is a manmade signal — it’ll be interesting to find out what it is,” he said. “It could be some used oceanography-type equipment that’s been left behind.
4/2/2014
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-10/iranian-stolen-passport-passenger-plot-thickens
Of course, Iran remains a troubled and stifled economy thanks in large part to US-led sanctions and (as The Telegraph notes)
US-led sanctions on Iran have plagued the economy and encouraged many young Iranians, who face high unemployment, to seek ways to travel to Europe, North America or Australia – legally or illegally.
So, to summarize: 3 days ago a Malaysian Airlines jet disappears suddenly leaving no wreckage... the passenger manifest included 2 Ukrainians... and 2 Iranians who were traveling on stolen passports bought for them in cash by a mysterious Iranian known as "Mr.Ali"... who hoped to emigrate to Europe (by way of Kuala Lumpur and Beijing)...
Malaysia has its own history of domestic terrorism. If, for the sake of argument, we're going to rush off and start making accusations that this was a terrorist incident, we shouldn't assume this involves Syria, the Ukraine, Iran, or the Jooos! just because those happen to be hot button issues in America. The motive may well be an issue that is completely irrelevant to your average Walmart shopper.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Malaysia - "Malaysian Terrorists - Azahari Husin and Noordin Mohammed Top are terrorists from Malaysia responsible and as key persons in bombing incidents in Indonesia."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_653 -"Malaysian Airline System Flight 653 (MH653) was a scheduled domestic flight from Penang to Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia, operated by Malaysian Airline System (MAS). On the evening of 4 December 1977, the Boeing 737-200 aircraft flying the service crashed at Tanjung Kupang, Johor, in Malaysia.[1] It was the first—and is the second-deadliest—fatal air crash for Malaysia Airlines (as MAS is now known); with all 93 passengers and 7 crew killed instantly.[2][3] The flight was apparently hijacked as soon as it reached cruise altitude. The circumstances in which the hijacking and subsequent crash occurred remain unsolved."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_al-Qaeda_Summit - "The 2000 Kuala Lumpur al-Qaeda Summit was a meeting of several high-level al-Qaeda members held in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia from January 5, 2000 to January 8, 2000.
The meeting was held in the hotel room of Yazid Sufaat, a former Malaysian Army captain and businessman, in a hotel in Kuala Lumpur. The meeting lasted from January 5, 2000 to January 8, 2000."
The meeting was held in the hotel room of Yazid Sufaat, a former Malaysian Army captain and businessman, in a hotel in Kuala Lumpur. The meeting lasted from January 5, 2000 to January 8, 2000."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Bilal - "Ahmed Ibrahim Bilal was a member of a terrorist group dubbed the Portland Seven, some members of which attempted to travel to Afghanistan shortly after 9/11 in order to aid the Taliban. He was indicted and arrested in Malaysia in October 2002. In 2003, he was sentenced to ten years on gun charges and for conspiracy to aid the Taliban in fighting the United States and coalition forces....flew out of Portland International Airport en route to Afghanistan. On October 20, 2001, Ford and the two Bilals also took the same route out of the United States....The six male members of the group travelled to China in early 2002, with the intent of entering Afghanistan to aid the Taliban"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Sayyaf - "Abu Sayyaf (About this sound pronunciation (help·info) AH-boo sah-YAHF;[needs IPA] Arabic: ????? ??? ?????; Jam??ah Ab? Sayy?f, ASG, Filipino: Grupong Abu Sayyaf) also known as al-Harakat al-Islamiyya[5] is one of several militant Islamist separatist groups based in and around the southern Philippines, in Bangsamoro (Jolo and Basilan), where for almost 30 years Muslim groups have been engaged in an insurgency for an independent province in the country....The group expanded its operations to Malaysia in 2000 when it abducted foreigners from two resorts. This action was condemned by most leaders in the Islamic world."
3/31/2014 Still no evidence of crash wreckage
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3/19/2014
Data deleted from flight simulator http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/relatives-grow-frustrated-trace-jet-found-22965038
http://thoughtcatalog.com/james-b-barnes/2014/03/5-creepy-theories-about-what-happened-to-the-missing-malaysian-flight/
Iranian Terrorists, electrical fire, suicide, mechanical, uighurs
As soon as authorities became aware that two stolen passports were used to allow two individuals to board Flight 370, one Austrian and one Italian, and that the purchaser of the tickets was Iranian, the world jumped to the conclusion that terrorists had gained control of the plane and crashed it or blown it up. In the following days, however, it appears that the two individuals using these passports were likely just Iranians trying to get into Europe. there’s no history of Iranian animosity towards either Malaysians or the Chinese who made up the bulk of the passengers..
If there is any group that has a motive for attacking Flight 370 it is the Uighur Easter Turkestan Independence Movement. But if Uighur separatists took control of Flight 370 then why haven’t they taken credit? That’s a good question, however they haven’t taken credit for the above mass stabbing either even police identified the 5 attackers they killed as being ethnic Uighurs.
- CNBC.com - 1 hour agoStudents stand next to a giant mural featuring missing MalaysiaAirlines flight MH370 displayed on the grounds of their school in Manila's ...
- Sydney Morning Herald -The residents said the aircraft had markings similar to the missing Malaysian Airlines plane.The Maldives news website Minivan News quoted five eyewitnesses who said they saw the aircraft. “It was about 6:30 in the morning, I heard a loud noise and went out to see what it was,” Adam Saeed, a teacher at Kudahuvadhoo school, told the Maldives news website Minivan News.“I saw a flight flying very low and it had a red straight line in the middle of it. The flight was travelling north-west to south-east,” he said.http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-maldives-discounted-as-possible-location-for-mh370-20140319-hvkjq.html#ixzz2wPQ0w2e9
- NEWS.com.au (blog) - by Cindy Wockner - 2 hours ago
officially discounted in a statement issued by the Maldives National Defence Force.
These reports were also confirmed by Malaysia's Transport Minister, Hishamuddin Hussein.
"Based on the monitoring up to date, no indication of Flight MH370 has been observed on any military radars in the country,” the statement said..
3/18/2014
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/17/opinion/bergen-flight-370-terrorism-role/index.html
Beyond Uyghur militants or operatives of Jemaah Islamiyah, might there be other terrorist groups with the motivation and capability of pulling off the hijacking of the Malaysia Airlines flight?
It doesn't seem so. If this were a hijacking for political purposes, the hijacking would have been followed by an act designed to send a political message, such as the planes hijacked on 9/11 that were then flown into the World Trade Center and Pentagon.
Or there would be set of demands,
. The one claim of responsibility so far is from an outfit calling itself the Chinese Martyrs' Brigade. This claim is not deemed to be credible. Malaysian Transport Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein told reporterslast week: "There is no sound or credible grounds to justify their claims.'"
3/17/2014
Former deputy CIA director casts doubt on Flight 370-al Qaeda link
Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 likely did not fly over a northern route suspected by some investigators, according to former Deputy Director of the CIA Mike Morell, because it would likely have been detected by the numerous countries the plane would have been forced to traverse.
“A lot of defense radar up there with China and India and the U.S. and Afghanistan,” he said on “CBS This Morning.” “…It’s most likely the southern route.”
Morell said the most interesting thing about this investigation is that “it really seems that somebody took control of this aircraft and flew it for some time after the communications systems were turned off.”
Experts Say It's Unlikely But Not Impossible Missing Jet Landed" and thought you might be interested:
CBSNews (Hidden Byline) — KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia -- The search for the missing Malaysian jet pushed deep into the northern and southern hemispheres ... Read Article
Top Israeli defense officials have hurriedly put in place a confidential list of secret security measures in light of the baffling disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jumbo jet that experts fear could become a weapon of mass destruction if in the wrong hands.
LIGNET: Boeing Source: Missing Plane Is in Pakistan
The Malaysian government reportedly is investigating the possibility that missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 avoided radar detection and landed in Pakistan near the Afghanistan border inside Taliban-controlled territory, according to the UK Independent. A LIGNET analyst received information from a source at Boeing that the company believes the plane did land in Pakistan.
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March 17, 2014 Malaysian Airlines plane could have flown into Taliban Base? The Independent in UK puts out the theory that the plane could have been flown into Taliban controlled territory between Afghanistan and Pakistan to be used at a later date.
Source: FlightRadar24.com 
- READ: Series of Errrors by MALAYSIA mounts complicating th task of Finding MH370
- http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/world/asia/series-of-errors-by-malaysia-mounts-complicating-the-task-of-finding-flight-370.html?hp&_r=0 SEPANG, Malaysia — The radar blip that was Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 did a wide U-turn over the Gulf of Thailand and then began moving inexorably past at least three military radar arrays as it traversed northern Malaysia, even flying high over one of the country’s biggest cities before heading out over the Strait of Malacca. Yet inside a Malaysian Air Force control room on the country’s west coast, where American-made F-18s and F-5 fighters stood at a high level of readiness for emergencies exactly like the one unfolding in the early morning of March 8, a four-person air defense radar crew did nothing about the unauthorized flight. “The watch team never noticed the blip,” said a person with detailed knowledge of the investigation into Flight 370. “It was as though the airspace was his.”
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India rejects talk MH370 jet was to be used in '9/11-style attack' against its citiesIndia rejected suggestions Monday that it could have been the intended target of a 9/11-style attack by the missing Malaysia Airlines jet.
As Prime Minister Manmohan Singh promised maximum assistance in the massive hunt for Flight 370, India’s foreign minister said it was vital that the mystery over its fate was cleared up.
But asked by the CNN-IBN network about suggestions that the plane was hijacked with the aim of flying it into an Indian city, Foreign Minister Salman Khurshid replied: “I don’t think we have gone that far.”
The speculation was fuelled by former US deputy secretary of state Strobe Talbott who tweeted that the “direction, fuel load & range now lead some to suspect hijackers planned a 9/11-type attack on an Indian city”.
His comments over the weekend have been widely picked up by the Indian media and Khurshid said people needed answers to allay their fears.
March 17, 2014: Malysia MH370 777 Flown at 5,000 Like a Bomber Under Radar Malay Mail reports that Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 descended to as low as 5,000 feet and cruised along commercial routes during its journey, likely to avoid being spotted on radar, said unnamed investigators on hunt for the missing aircraft. “It is possible that the aircraft had hugged the terrain in some areas that are mountainous to avoid radar detection,” adding that the flight had used busy airways over the Bay of Bengal. By keeping to commercial routes, it would appear to be just another commercial aircraft on its way to its destination.. the stealthy technique employed by military bomber pilots uses topography to mask approach but is considered a perilous technique [at night]
When Captain Zaharie Ahmed Shah said "all right, good night" the plane's data communications system was switched off, Malaysia's Acting Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said ... the informal hand-off went against standard radio procedures, which would have called for him to read back instructions for contacting the next control center and include the aircraft's call sign, mirror2
March 15: Malaysia Airlines crashed in Bay of Bengal/Indian Ocean? Economic Times - KUALA LUMPUR: The Malaysia Airlines plane, missing for a week, may have crashed either in the Bay of Bengal or in the Indian Ocean, a TV ...
KUALA LUMPUR: The Malaysia Airlines plane, missing for a week, may have crashed either in the Bay of Bengal or in the Indian Ocean, a TV news channel reported today, hours after Malaysian Prime Minister confirmed that flight data showed the jet deviated due to "deliberate action". "The news channel has learned that a classified analysis of electronic and satellite data suggests the flight likely crashed either in the Bay of Bengal or elsewhere in the Indian Ocean,
Desperate Zionists Publish Cover-Up Article, Insist Malaysian ...
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13 hours ago - How much more desperate can the Zionists become? ... late yesterday police had gone again to the home of the pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah.
[Is this obvious disinformation that could lead to a state intelligence agency?]The article is long, no doubt, and is a sickening fraud. It demonstrates the degree of desperation which exists within the Zionist cabal regarding its plots for world conquest. Their power is rather astounding. The power-brokers of the United States, India, China, Malaysia, and Australia all heavily participated in the fraud.In some ways it is a waste of time to read such a propaganda piece. Yet, simultaneously the article demonstrates the feeble, if not sophomoric, nature of the Zionist power-brokers and their various allies, as they attempt to cover a mere lie with yet other falsifications.- It is clearly a hoax. There was no such jetliner which disappeared. There were no passengers gone missing. Regarding the relatives of such passengers there are none, only crisis actors, mere fakes, playing the role of people in grief.
March 16, 2014 Malaysia Radar Recorded Missing MH370 But Nobody Acted Tapes showed that the missing MH370 flight was recorded on radar crossing their airspace, but the four person crew watching either did not notice or failed to report the blip according to an official with knowledge of the matter. If it had been reported, fighters could have been launched to investigate or follow the 777 before it vanished out of radar range.
3/15/2014
http://neoneocon.com/2014/03/15/flight-370-update/
He has a map of the path of the plane which is following known airways:
A simple low key announcement that there’s a little bit of turbulence ahead would be more than enough to satisfy everyone.
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The odds are that Muslims hijacked the plane and intended to hold the high-value passengers as hostages pending the release of fellow jihadis locked up in Chinese prisons.
They’ve been down this road before.
If you’ll recall, AQ and its minions have been engaged in a “Breaking-the-Walls” campaign for quite some time.
(That’s its official English title, BTW.)
They’ve had great success in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Getting the 777 back up in the sky is not part of their plan.
BTW, didn’t Muslim air hijacking get started by landing jets in the desert?
And, wasn’t the motive centered around freeing convicted terrorists and murderers from prison?
It sure rhymes.
March 15, 2014 Malaysian #MH370 Pilot Was Political Fanatic For Opposition Leader The Daily Mail uncovered that Malaysia Flight 370 Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was an ‘obsessive’ supporter of Malaysia’s opposition leader, Anwar Ibrahim. Just before the flight, he had attended the trial in which Ibrahim was jailed for what was widely viewed as persecution over trumped sodomy charges. Although known as a moderate muslim who condemned terrorism, Ibrahim was known to make controversial comments about Zionists, "nasty Jews" and conspiracy theories. B'nai B'rith International, a prominent Jewish human rights organisation had condemned Anwar in a letter to the United States Senate, calling Anwar a "purveyor of anti-Jewish hatred". Anwar promoted a conspiracy theory that Malaysian foreign policy changes were caused by Jews manipulating Malaysia for the United States. The believed that the APCO public relations firm retained by the government was actually a front for Israel that was linked to the "murder of Muslims in Palestine."
MALAYSIAN officials not ruling out Uighur Muslim involvement in the ...
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http://boltonbnp.blogspot.com/2014/03/malaysian-officials-not-ruling-out.html
Suspicions that the Beijing-bound Boeing jet, which vanished on Saturday with 239 people on board, may have been hijacked or bombed have risen after at least two – four passengers were found to be using stolen passports, though Malaysia’s government stressed it was considering all possibilities.
The four comprise two travelers with European passports, possibly Ukrainian, in addition to two travelling on stolen Austrian and Italian passports, the sources said. Early indications show some sort of a security laps.
The timing of the incident, a week after knife-wielding assailants killed at least 29 people at a train station in the south-western Chinese city of Kunming, led to speculation that militants from China’s Uighur Muslim minority could be involved.
Malaysia, a Muslim-majority country that has courted close ties with Beijing in recent years, deported 11 Uighurs in 2011 it said were involved in a human smuggling syndicate.
The next year, it was condemned by US-based Human Rights Watch for deporting six Uighurs the rights group described as asylum seekers. Human Rights Watch said the six had been detained while trying to leave Malaysia on fake passports.
The BBC reported that the men using the stolen passports had purchased tickets together and were flying on to Europe.
Nearly two years before the Sept. 11 terror attacks, Egypt Air Flight 990 Egypt Air Flight 990 took off from Kennedy Airport bound for Cairo and inexplicably crashed into the Atlantic off Nantucket, Mass., killing all 217 aboard. U.S. investigators determined the relief co-pilot, Gamil el-Batouty, deliberately crashed the plane. Those findings were released just five months before Sept. 11.
Batouty’s last words, according to investigators, were in the form of Muslim prayer in Arabic: “I rely on Allah.” He said it 11 times before the aircraft began its sudden descent from 33,000 feet to 16,000 feet.
The auto-pilot was switched off before the steep dive and both engines were shut off. Mechanical failure was ruled out.
3/14/2014http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/15/Missing-MH370-Plane-may-have-run-out-of-fuel-over-Indian-Ocean/
WASHINGTON: Analysis of electronic pulses picked up from missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 shows it could have run out of fuel and crashed into the Indian Ocean after it flew hundreds of miles off course, a source familiar with official U.S. assessments said on Friday......the other, but less likely possibility, was that it flew on toward India
Missing Plane’s Turns Suggest Control of Aircraft
pings evidently came from technology inside Boeing aircraft that transmits a signal to a satellite that even pilots may not know about, ABC News has learned. This system establishes what is described as an electronic “handshake” between the airplane and the satellite.... signal is crude when it comes to location data, so investigators will still be faced with a significant search. The pings occur every hour and ABC News has been told there were four or five of the transmissions. Searchers will use the last transmission to project out in their search. Inmarsat, a British company, said today, "Routine, automated signals were registered on the Inmarsat network from Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 during its flight from Kuala Lumpur."
5:11 PM FIRST ON CNN: A classified analysis of electronic and satellite data conducted by the United States and Malaysian governments shows Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 likely crashed into the Indian Ocean on one of two flight paths, CNN has learned. One flight path suggests the plane crashed into the Bay of Bengal off the coast of India; the other has it traveling southeast and crashing elsewhere in the Indian Ocean, according to the analysis.
Veterans Today - normally obvious conspiracy theory site offers some relatively sane theorieshttp://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/13/malaysia-air-flight-370-facts-of-the-flight-and-9-possible-scenarios/...DELIBERATE TAKE-DOWN
This differs substantially from any of the previous possible causes. Reasons for an intentional take-down could include intimidating a particular entity to align or fall behind certain politics of a civil or governmental/semi-governmental entity. Powerful organizations exist that will not hesitate at intimidating or assassinating at will.
It is my opinion, that there are far too many irregularities involved in this incident for it to be a simple aviation accident. Absent a debris field, the most likely scenario, in my opinion, is a commandeering. Toward what end remains to be seen.
Radar data suggests missing Malaysia plane deliberate
http://mobile.reuters.com/pilot's house has not been searched yet
One U.S. Theory: Plane's Disappearance 'Act of Piracy'" and thought you might be interested:
examining the possibility the plane's disappearance is "an act of piracy," and that the plane may have landed somewhere rather than crashed, ...The AP attributed the information to a U.S. official who wasn't authorized to speak publicly on the matter and spoke only if not identified. NBC News has not independently confirmed the information....key evidence for "human intervention" in the plane's disappearance is that contact with its transponder stopped about a dozen minutes before a messaging system quit. Another communications system on the plane continued to "ping" a satellite for about four hours after contact was lost with the Boeing 777 during a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing — an indication the plane may have continued to fly on for hours.
http://spookdblog.blogspot.com/2014/03/missing-airliner-mystery.html
UPDATE [10 March]
The two men who used the stolen passports to board the missing plane have been identified as Iranians who had bought the stolen passports in Kuala Lumpur. Their destination was Amsterdam, via Beijing. According to their friend in Kuala Lumpur, they wanted to go to Europe to start new lives.
UPDATE [9 March]:
1) The two tickets purchased using the stolen passports were bought together, with a destination in Europe; thus, they would not have had to get Chinese visas, and the individuals would most likely have been Caucasians to match their passports.
2) One of the passports in question was stolen at a motorcycle rental shop in Thailand
3) Debris has been sighted off the coast of Vietnam which may be a door and the tail section.
4) A pilot in a plane in the general vicinity reported what he thought was a transmission from the missing aircraft's copilot; he described the transmission as sounding like "mumbling"
5) The missing aircraft reportedly went silent and disappeared from radar after climbing to 35,000 feet; if there were a bomb aboard, it could have been set to detonate with an altimeter fuse.
6) Alternatively, given the missing plane's copilot's mumbled transmission, and reports it may have been turning off course, it's possible that a gas agent, such as BZ was connected to the plane's air conditioning system, slowly incapacitating both passengers and crew over a period of two hours.
a) As a Central Nervous System depressant, it disrupts the functions of memory,
problem solving, attention, and comprehension.
b) Higher concentrations produce toxic delirium, destroying a pilot's ability to perform
his flight tasks, resulting in mumbling and inability to function.
c) BZ was used by the Russians in 2002 to capture the Moscow theater seized by terrorists.
march 12
All right, good night" were the final words heard by air traffic controllers from the missing Malaysia Airlines flight
It sent no distress signals or any indication it was experiencing any problems. Malaysian authorities said Wednesday that a review of military radar records showed plots of what might have been the plane turning back, crossing over the country and flying to the Strait of Malacca, a busy shipping lane west of the narrow nation.... unlikely the plane would have flown across Malaysia without being detected by civilian radar unless its electrical systems, including transponders allowing it to be identified by radar, were either knocked out or turned off.
- New York Daily News - 21 hours ago“All right, good night,” was the last radio transmission from the cockpit, Malaysian officials told relatives of the passengers. Captain Zaharie ...
U.S. counter-terror officials fear plane could have been captured after debris spotted by Chinese is ruled out and data reveals it was airborne four hours after vanishing
Investigators are considering the possibility that someone managed to cloak the plane as questions are raised about who was in control of the Boeing 777 after air traffic controllers lost contact.
BY TIM O'CONNOR / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
PUBLISHED: WEDNESDAY, MARCH 12, 2014, 6:48 AM
UPDATED: THURSDAY, MARCH 13, 2014, 3:4
- U.S. counterterrorism officials are investigating whether someone on board tampered with the plane to somehow cloak it, the report said. The new suspicions are based on plane engine data that automatically downloads as routine maintenance.
CBSNews (Hidden Byline) — KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia -- Two communications systems on board the missing Malaysian Airlines plane were shut down separately... Read Article
Official: Malaysia plane sent pings for hours
http://cnn.it/1ifyc45
CNN:
Missing Malaysian plane: Did it land?
http://cnn.it/1lD6nTx
theory builds on earlier revelations by U.S. officials that an automated reporting system on the airliner was pinging satellites for hours after its last reported contact with air traffic controllers. That makes some investigators think the plane flew on for hours before truly disappearing.
Aviation experts say it's possible, if highly unlikely, that someone could have hijacked and landed the giant Boeing 777 undetected.
But Denis Giles, editor of the Andaman Chronicle newspaper, says there's just nowhere to land such a big plane in his archipelago without attracting notice...senior U.S. official on Thursday offered a conflicting account, telling CNN that "there is probably a significant likelihood" the plane is on the bottom of the Indian Ocean.
James Kallstrom, a former FBI assistant director, said it's possible the plane could have landed..."You draw that (range) arc and you look at countries like Pakistan, you know, and you get into your Superman novels and you see the plane landing somewhere and (people) repurposing it for some dastardly deed down the road,"
Investigators trying to solve the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jetliner are looking at ‘sabotage or hihacking’, after examining military radar data reports suggesting the plane was purposely flown hundreds of miles off course.
CBSNews (Hidden Byline) — KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia -- The international search for the missing Malaysian jetliner expanded Friday further into the India... Read Article
'Seismic Event' Close to Missing Jet Path: China Scientists
http://www.nbcnews.com/
CNN - some sort of nefarious human act, everybody wants to avoid topic of terrorism
last known point was near a designated navigation waypoint
"new evidence may point to sabotage"
deliberately flown to andaman islands
based on military radar hits
likely at the bottom of the ocean
seafloor event near malaysia 1.5 hr after loss - on eastern side
there are no coincidences in terrorism
waypoints heading to mideast passage
or just scuttle the airplane
[could it be ditched]
7 days later
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304185104579437573396580350
Satellite Data Reveal Route of Missing Malaysia Airlines Plane
Jetliner 'Pinged' Satellites With Location, Altitude for Hours After Disappearance
Former FBI agent Chris Voss joins the News Hub to discuss U.S. investigators' suspicions that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for four hours after vanishing from civilian air-traffic control radar.comments: why be able to shut down at all?
With as much flight security experience as we have in the world community you have to wonder why there is a need for any pilot to have access to a transponder's operation in the first place..
comment: (Iran did it) The purpose is very clear to anyone with a brain. Those two Iranians using stolen passports was NOT an aberration. Iran commandeered the 777 to use it with borrowed nukes from North Korea to beat Israel to the punch and nuke them out of existence before Israel is forced to do that to protect itself--from exactly this kind of thing. So soon Israel will cease to exist and the world will never be the same again as it will throw the entire world into pandemonium, crash the stock market, etc. In short the apocalypse is upon us and it will happen suddenly and soon. And on Obama's watch the pushover President who is allowing Russia free reigns.
Where do you hide a large airplane?
At at a large international airport, obviously ...
with local support of a sympathetic state ...
which has been known to harbor terrorists (bin Laden) ...
and has activly supported terror acts.
This plane made a night landing in Karachi, and is being readied for its final mission.
(Hope I am wrong)
At at a large international airport, obviously ...
with local support of a sympathetic state ...
which has been known to harbor terrorists (bin Laden) ...
and has activly supported terror acts.
This plane made a night landing in Karachi, and is being readied for its final mission.
(Hope I am wrong)
So a terrorist organization lands a stolen Malaysian plane with many Chinese on board in a country that is friendly to their cause, presumably so they can use that plane as a weapon against the US (or similar nation).
Hard to imagine a scenario where a country is willing to willingly put themselves in the cross-hairs of so many different countries. It's one thing to turn a blind-eye to terrorists training in your country, it's another to actively steal a plane full of Chinese and use that plane as a weapon against the US. Politicians usually have a certain level of self-preservation in mind.
And the US and European reaction....no need to worry. All is fine. Even though they clearly knew, just a few hours into the flight, that the plane was stolen?
No evidence of a crash,...... Iranians, with stolen passports, on board,......"High-Jacked?"Hard to imagine a scenario where a country is willing to willingly put themselves in the cross-hairs of so many different countries. It's one thing to turn a blind-eye to terrorists training in your country, it's another to actively steal a plane full of Chinese and use that plane as a weapon against the US. Politicians usually have a certain level of self-preservation in mind.
And the US and European reaction....no need to worry. All is fine. Even though they clearly knew, just a few hours into the flight, that the plane was stolen?
Obviously
They are finally figuring out what many of us have known from day 2 when it was learned that people boarded on stolen passports, using one way tickets, through a third party, paid with cash, to go to Europe, but heading in the wrong direction.
The governments and compliant media worked very hard to stamp out any suspicions of terrorism, going so far as to practically "rule it out" before anything was even known about what had happened. That's usually the first sign that there was evil intent.
Gablerman: Israel did it Correct. They know where it is, they know who has it.They are finally figuring out what many of us have known from day 2 when it was learned that people boarded on stolen passports, using one way tickets, through a third party, paid with cash, to go to Europe, but heading in the wrong direction.
The governments and compliant media worked very hard to stamp out any suspicions of terrorism, going so far as to practically "rule it out" before anything was even known about what had happened. That's usually the first sign that there was evil intent.
And it is not a threat to the US, or any civilian.
What country would not care about angering Malaysia or China, and not worry about a US strike? And pull off a very professional job?
Who would want two Iranians traveling under stolen passports?
Israel.
It's not like Israel would land troops at a foreign airport to free hostages. Or launch attacks against nuclear facilities. Or assassinate nuclear scientists.
Could they do this? Absolutely.
Waiting to hear better theories, and I have heard NONE yet.
"If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
Yeah, Israelis stole the plane, by convincing Iranian nationals to board with stolen passports and divert the plane to... where again?
OK then.
When you hypothesize, you might want to start with states that have been supporting the hijacking of aircraft for the past 30 or 40 years.
An Amsterdam albatross, on a solitary flight across the Indian Ocean, may have been the last witness to the journey's end of the last flight of Air Malaysia's Boeing 777. The jet's powerful engines had shut down as the fuel supply ran out and gravity took over. On board the aircraft, the passengers sat frozen in their seats, a forest of oxygen masks hanging from the ceiling, debris everywhere, evidence of the explosive decompression that killed them. Just as with the Learjet that Payne Stewart and his fellow passengers were in that crashed in 1999, the 777 passengers had already passed on before the final moments of their flight. What a grim scene that must have been a few days ago, passengers strapped in the seats, cellphones randomly ringing, with ice on all exposed surfaces, including flesh. Hours early, the 777 passengers had boarded the night flight to Beijing with plans for the future. Now, fate changed their itinerary. As the world searched for the final resting place of the missing jet, that albatross continued winging its way west, oblivious to the cares of the swarm of humanity that long ago had invaded its world high above the ocean below.OK then.
When you hypothesize, you might want to start with states that have been supporting the hijacking of aircraft for the past 30 or 40 years.
--And that is as likely a scenario as any for what happened to the lost Air Malaysia jet.
...As pointed out, unlike Helios:
No malfunctions reported.
Transponders and communications - intentionally switched off - 14 minutes apart. Indicating crew consciousness and intent.
During this time, radio silence.
No distress call.
Flight diverted, not back toward KL airport, but west over the Straits of Malacca, and then northwest over the Indian Ocean. If crew incapacitated, who made these course changes?
No drop to safe altitude (10,000 ft). Instead it stays aloft at 35,000 feet.
Cockpits have emergency bottled oxygen which the crew can use for prolonged periods of time.
Today's flight crews have studied Helios and know how to avoid that situation.
This is not at all like Helios
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-missing-malaysia-plane-20140314,0,1501655.story
Military radar data suggests a Malaysia Airlines plane missing for nearly a week was deliberately flown hundreds of miles off course, heightening suspicions of foul play among investigators, sources told Reuters on Friday.
an unidentified aircraft that investigators believe was Flight MH370 was following a route between navigational waypoints when it was last plotted on military radar off the country's northwest coast.
last plot on the military radar's tracking suggested the plane was flying toward India's Andaman Islands
following a route between navigational waypoints when it was last plotted on military radar off the country's northwest coast.
This indicates that it was either being flown by the pilots or someone with knowledge of those waypoints
POSSIBLE SABOTAGE OR HIJACK
"What we can say is we are looking at sabotage, with hijack still on the cards," said that source, a senior Malaysian police official.
3/13/2014
use it for sabotage??
UPDATE: The U.S. believes the missing Malaysia Airlines plane's data reporting system and transponder were shut down separately, at 1:07 a.m. and 1:21 a.m. Such a scenario would indicate the plane did not disappear due to some kind of catastrophic failure.
Wall Street Journal: The Tricky science of radar tracking
lost contact with secondary radar at 1:21 am, lost on primary radar at 1:30 cruising 35,000 ft above South China sea. Primary radar just paints target and return, secondary is cooperative and gets information back from transponder. Secondary radar range 200 miles, primary radar 115 miles
- Wall Street Journal - by Trefor Moss - 4 hours agoUnderscoring the difficulty of radar tracking, the National Transportation Safety ... "That's obviously difficult to do now" without the assistance of ...
U.S. aviation investigators and national security officials now believe that a missing Malaysia Airlines plane remained in the air for hours after it lost contact with air traffic controllers and disappeared from radar screens.
Everything else you hear until they find the aircraft is speculation at best and malicious gossip at worst.
he terrorism trope
In case you hadn't noticed, everything changed after four aircraft were hijacked on September 11, 2001. Terrorism is now constantly on the minds of journalists and government officials. So even when a terror attack is unlikely, as it was with the Malaysia Airlines disappearance, the media will stoke the real or imagined flames of untoward acts. And why not? Raising terrorism fears allows the media to bring on an additional cast of characters: the self-appointed "security experts," former government functionaries and thehateful jihadi alarmists. They all have an agenda to push a terrorist connection because, without one, there's no reason for them to come on television or be quoted. But the overwhelming reality of MH370 was that terrorism was never a plausible possibility. After all, what kind of terrorist takes out a flight over water (no pictures) and then doesn't even claim credit for the dastardly deed?
No MH370 Distress Call, Search Area Widened
Malaysia Airlines has now confirmed that its missing Boeing 777-200ER operating flight MH370 did not send out a distress call or any Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System Messages (ACARS) before it disappeared. “There were no distress calls and no information was relayed,” the airline said in a statement on Tuesday.
UPDATE 5: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Malaysia Airlines (MAS) lost contact with Flight 370, a Boeing 777-200 with 227 passengers and 12 crew members onboard, about an hour into its scheduled 6-hr, 10-min flight to Beijing on March 8.
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China sattelite detects crash and photo spots possible debris in water
Man interviewed who saw burning plane go down
Taiwan Alerted Chinese Authorities to Warning of Beijing Attack
-- so why did the government not release this information right away since loss of contact when plane changes course is what happened in 9/11 attacks - might be total power loss knocking out transponder and radio - but if they were turning back why are they so far off - they ended up almost due west back over the peninsula over the straight nearly in Indonesia --
CNN Breaking News 3:32 edt Malaysian Flight 370 was last detected flying over a small island hundreds of miles from the flight's usual route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, according to a senior Malaysian Air Force official. The official declined to be named because he is not authorized to speak to the media.
If the new data is correct, the aircraft was flying in the opposite direction from its scheduled destination and was on the opposite side of the Malay Peninsula from its scheduled route. Previous accounts had the aircraft losing touch with air traffic control near the coast of Vietnam.
March 11, 20124 Interpol Sees Terrorism in Missing Malaysia MH370 Unlikely Interpol announced as it was revealed that the two mystery passengers as well as the man who bought the tickets in Thailand were Iranians who swapped passports in Kuala Lumpur and used passports stolen from an Italian and Austria to board the plane. "The more information we get, the more we are inclined to conclude it is not a terrorist incident." as one of the mystery passengers identified as Pouria Nour Mohammad Mehrdad was judged to be unlikely to have links to a terrorist group and was probably migrating to Germany. (which makes a pretty good cover story)
Update 3/10/2014
- Passports stolen from Thailand
- Tickets for both purchased at same time
- Tickets for one-way to Europe through Beijing which means less screening
- Tickets purchased by mysterious Iranian man
- Wreckage still not found - airplane probably flown into the water leaving a very small debris patch
- US still saying no indications of terrorism
- Thumbprints and photos of men using stolen passports are being reviewed but not released
- China Netizens blame Uighur
- June 2012 attempted hijacking of airliner from Xinjiang, group of men rushed cockpit with crutch and explosives but were beaten by passengers before they could succeed - this is consistent with scenario of 2 or 4 men breaking into cockpit and crashing Malaysian plane
- The last fatal crash for Malaysia Airlines was in 1995, when 34 people were killed near the city of Tawau. In 1977, a domestic Malaysia Airlines flight was hijacked and crashed, killing 100 people.
BBC makes possible connection to Uighur attacks in Beijing or Kunming railway station:
The second and perhaps more frightening possibility is that an act of terrorism downed the airliner. This incident comes just a week after 29 people were killed in a mass-stabbing in south-western China that authorities blamed on Uighur militants, and security has again been stepped up at transport hubs in China. It is important to stress, though, that no-one has admitted carrying out an attack.
*Sources
updated 10:55 AM EDT, Mon June 9, 2014
Relatives of passengers are launching an effort to raise $5 million for investigations and a "whistle blower" reward.
updated 3:31 AM EDT, Mon June 9, 2014
Making sure another plane is never "lost" again is the immediate priority for the airline industry.
updated 11:36 AM EDT, Fri May 30, 2014
Was the sound of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 striking the water captured by ocean devices used to listen for signs of nuclear blasts?
updated 6:29 PM EDT, Wed May 28, 2014
What was believed to be the best hope of finding the missing plane is now being called a false hope. Rene Marsh explains.
updated 5:05 PM EDT, Wed May 28, 2014
Involved parties, including the manufacturer Boeing, are bracing for a long public relations siege while the families of the missing passengers continue to grieve.
updated 7:34 AM EDT, Thu May 29, 2014
Official: The four acoustic pings at the center of the search for Flight 370 are no longer believed to have come from the plane's black boxes.
updated 10:21 AM EDT, Tue May 27, 2014
There is one fundamental question which continues to swirl: Has Inmarsat got its numbers right?
updated 8:13 AM EDT, Tue May 27, 2014
Data from communications between satellites and missing Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 was released
updated 3:42 AM EDT, Tue May 27, 2014
Family members of the people aboard missing plane want independent investigators to review the newly released satellite data.
updated 7:47 AM EDT, Wed May 21, 2014
CNN's Richard Quest explains what kind of information should be contained in the Inmarsat data from Flight MH370.
updated 8:46 PM EDT, Mon May 26, 2014
The underwater search for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane will effectively be put on hold this week, and may not resume until August at the very earliest.
updated 9:04 AM EDT, Mon May 19, 2014
Movie-makers in Cannes have announced they're making a thriller based on the disappearance of Malaysian flight MH370.
updated 3:25 PM EDT, Tue May 6, 2014
The search for the missing Boeing 777 has gone on for eight weeks now. CNN's David Molko looks back at this difficult, emotional assignment.
updated 5:05 PM EDT, Tue May 13, 2014
A United Nations aviation agency agreed that global airline flight tracking is needed in the wake of Flight 370's disappearance.
updated 11:24 AM EDT, Fri May 2, 2014
Confusion, misleading information and then long periods of nothing marked the first hours of the flight's disappearance.
updated 3:39 PM EDT, Tue April 29, 2014
It sounds like standard radio chatter between an airplane and ground control, mostly repeating the identifying number of the flight.
MH370 families seek $5 million for investigation, reward
website:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/5-000-000-reward-mh370-in-search-of-the-truth-find-the-plane-passengers
3/10/2014
Today - US says there is no indication of terrorism. Expert says terrorism is a possibility, previous bombs or failures result in a large debris field but nothing found so far
3/9/2014 - Fox news - Conservative counter-terrorist Erick Stakelbeck points to terrorism around Malaysia, and Bojinka and 9/11 terrorists meeting in Malaysia and Ramsi Yousef planning plane attacks, and Uyghurs in Xianjiang
3/8/2014
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4323540
This says both passports were stolen around 2 years ago in Thailand at a car rental agency (left passports as deposits for cars, both passports were missing upon car return).
http://www.sfgate.com/news/world/article/2-on-missing-Malaysia-jet-used-stolen-EU-passports-5299597.php
The Italian was traveling in Thailand ...passport had been stolen about a year and a half ago while traveling in Thailand. "He deposited it with rental car agency, and when he returned the car it was gone,"
ommissar Kate wrote:
Sounds like they found multiple oil slicks on the surface of the ocean several miles apart. That mean the plane probably broke up in the sky.
I'm thinking.....
1. It was bombed.
2. Catastrophic structural failure due to a fault in the airframe or extreme maneuvering.
3. Something caused the fuel to burn/explode.
*Tinfoil hat mode* It was shot down.....
If they find the blackbox we might find out what happened.
Still safer than driving....
I'm thinking.....
1. It was bombed.
2. Catastrophic structural failure due to a fault in the airframe or extreme maneuvering.
3. Something caused the fuel to burn/explode.
*Tinfoil hat mode* It was shot down.....
If they find the blackbox we might find out what happened.
Still safer than driving....
I heard a report that two people were listed as being on that flight, who are very much alive, did not board the flight, and reported their passports stolen a week or so ago. Makes me think it's related to the Uyghur stuff going on in China:http://www.asianweek.com/2014/03/07/uyghur-jihad-for-freedom-or-chinas-911/
U.S. nationals on the plane's manifest were identified by the airline as Philip Wood, 51; Nicole Meng, 4; and Yan Zhang, 2.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3131043/posts?page=40
Try this on for size:
http://www.asianweek.com/2014/03/07/uyghur-jihad-for-freedom-or-chinas-911/
The Uighur Muslims, in my humble opinion, may have attacked this flight as part of their jihad on the Chinese.
http://www.asianweek.com/2014/03/07/uyghur-jihad-for-freedom-or-chinas-911/
The Uighur Muslims, in my humble opinion, may have attacked this flight as part of their jihad on the Chinese.
37 posted on 3/8/2014 2:32:08 PM by surroundedbyblue (Bitter clinger & creepy-ass cracker)
To: Talisker
I agree with you. See my link in post #37. I don’t think it’s a stretch to think this is another moose limb, ROP attack
At least two names on a passenger list released by Beijing police appeared to have been redacted, with the names pixillated out, leading to online speculation that they could have been ethnic Uighurs, a Muslim people from the restive far western Chinese region of Xinjiang. - See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.com/world/article/angry-chinese-want-information-on-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight#sthash.Hy0SgfDP.dpuf
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2501862/pg28
BBC News (World) @BBCWorld 11m
#MH370 flight: BBC's John Sudworth says China officials feel something untoward has happened
hmmm.. ya THINK?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55246456 #MH370 flight: BBC's John Sudworth says China officials feel something untoward has happened
hmmm.. ya THINK?
UIGHURS?
MALAY ISLAMISTS?
LiveLeak.com - Malaysian Airlines 777 200 Flight Crashes into the ...
www.liveleak.com/view?i=11d_1394260844&comments=1
LiveLeak3/7/2014 I'm betting 20% on Uighur Separatists or Falun Gong bombing the aircraft.
The second and perhaps more frightening possibility is that an act of terrorism downed the airliner. This incident comes just a week after 29 people were killed in a mass-stabbing in south-western China that authorities blamed on Uighur militants, and security has again been stepped up at transport hubs in China. It is important to stress, though, that no-one has admitted carrying out an attack.
Others claimed some names on a list published by Beijing police have been redacted and are Muslims from the Xinjiang region of China, whose Uighurs were behind the mass stabbing in Kunming recently.
| Wall Street Journal | - |
BEIJING--A Malaysia Airlines executive said Sunday that its missing plane, which carried 239 people, had its last safety inspection 10 days ago--earlier than required--and didn't have a history of malfunction. Speaking at a news conference near Beijing's main ...
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Flight MH370 lost contact with air traffic controllers at 2:40am local time on Saturday (5:40am AEDT), just over two hours into what should have been a six-hour journey.no indications of sabotage nor claims of a terrorist attack.
But the passenger manifest issued by the airline included the names of two Europeans - Austrian Christian Kozel and Italian Luigi Maraldi - who, according to their foreign ministries, were not in fact on the plane.
A foreign ministry spokesman in Vienna said: "Our embassy got the information that there was an Austrian on board. That was the passenger list from Malaysia Airlines. Our system came back with a note that this is a stolen passport."
Austrian police found the man safe at home.
The passport was stolen two years ago while he was travelling in Thailand, the spokesman said.
The foreign ministry in Rome said no Italian was on the plane either, despite the inclusion of Mr Maraldi's name on the list.
His mother, Renata Lucchi, told Reuters his passport was lost, presumed stolen, in Thailand in 2013.
In Depth
| Telegraph.co.uk | - |
Air safety experts are investigating whether an airliner that mysteriously vanished in the Far East could have been the target of a terrorist attack. Twenty-four hours after Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 disappeared over the South China Sea, the only clue to the ...
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(CNN) -- The closest thing to a clue in the search for a missing commercial jetliner is traces of oil found in the ocean in the same area where contact was lost with the Malaysia Airlines flight. A Vietnamese search plane spotted the oil while flying over the ...
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A Malaysia Airlines flight carrying 239 people from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing went missing over the South China Sea on Saturday, prompting China to send ships to scour the water for possible wreckage. The airline, speaking several hours after the plane had ...
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Malaysia Airlines has issued a statement Saturday saying an international search and rescue operation has "failed to find evidence of any wreckage" in trying to locate flight MH370, 24 hours after it went missing off Vietnam's coast carrying 227 passengers ...
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A Malaysia airlines jet on the apron at Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Sepang. Malaysian Airlines has lost contact with one of its jets, a Boeing 777-200 en route to Beijing, the airliner said this morning. Photograph: Ahmad Yusni/EPA. Topics: News ...
From Malaysia
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SEPANG: There is no firm news of Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing although it has been reported missing more than 24 hours ago. MAS' Executive Media Relations and Strategic Communications Malini Saudranrajan urged ...
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SEPANG, March 9 (Bernama) -- There is no indication of Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing although it has been reported missing more than 24 hours ago. Despite deprived of good news, everyone is having high hopes and ...
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Two passengers who boarded the missing Malaysia Airlines flight early on Saturday morning were not who they represented to be. Foreign ministry officials in Italy and Austria have confirmed the nationals named as having being on board are in fact alive and ...
the aircraft first disappeared over the South China Sea two hours after take-off from Kuala Lumpur International Airport at 12:41am on Saturday, a major focal point for investigators is now the identity of the two passengers and whether the plane has been targeted as a terrorist attack. Meantime late Saturday a Vietnamese search plane reported oil slicks several miles long have been seen about 90 miles south of Tho Chu Island. Vietnam's official news agency is reporting that it is believed the slicks are from the missing airliner
http://www.malaysiasun.com/index.php/sid/220383845/scat/48cba686fe041718/ht/Passengers-with-stolen-passports-on-board-Malaysia-Airlines-flight#sthash.UWYzouqo.dpuf - Fox News - 2 hours agoThe airline said the Boeing 777-200 "lost contact" with Subang Air Traffic Control at 2:40 a.m., two hours into the flight. The plane had been ...
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Search launched for Malaysian airliner carrying 239 people - CNN ...
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CNN10 hours ago - A Malaysia Airlines flight carrying 239 people from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing ... The Boeing 777-200 departed Kuala Lumpur International Airport at 12:41 ...Family and friends of those missing on the flight gathered at a hotel ...Malaysia Airlines missing plane search called off as 239 passengers ...
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Daily Mail2 hours agoSearch called off for missing Boeing 777 as it is emerges that two people on board were using STOLEN PASSPORTS. MalaysiaAirlines flight ...Search on for missing Malaysia Airlines 777 - FT.com
7 hours ago - Fears over missing Malaysia Airlines 777 A frantic search is under way by three south east Asian nations for a Malaysia Airlines aircraft with ...Malaysia 777 Bound For Beijing Missing Over Vietnam Malaysia ...
https://plus.google.com/.../posts/gx36R78MmFd11 hours ago - Malaysia 777 Bound For Beijing Missing Over Vietnam No possible connection to Uighur attacks in Beijing or Kunming railway station.Malaysia Airlines Boeing ...
Missing Malaysia Airlines 777 reported crashed at sea - Miami Herald
10 hours ago - A Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200 carrying 239 people lost contact with air traffic control early Saturday morning on a flight from Kuala ...Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 has Likely Crashed Near Vietnam
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15 hours ago - Originally reports stated that the aircraft went missing two hours after ...The plane believed to be involved is 9M-MRO, a Boeing 777-200ER ...Malaysia Airlines loses contact with plane en route to Beijing with ...
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CBS News15 hours ago - Boeing 777-200 was on its way to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur; 153 ... said it was aware of reports that the Malaysia Airlines plane was missing ...
CNN lost track of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 not long after it left Kuala Lumpur, the capital of Malaysia, on its way to Beijing. More than half the passengers are Chinese nationals.
Austria denies that one of the citizens included on the passenger list issued by Malaysia Airlines was on board, Austrian Foreign Ministry spokesman Martin Weiss told CNN Saturday. The Austrian citizen is safe and sound and his passport was stolen two years ago, Weiss said.
There also was no Italian citizen on board the flight, despite the presence of an Italian name on the passenger list released by the airline, Italian Foreign Ministry spokesman Aldo Amati said Saturday.
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