Is Computer Wiz Mike Rivero Behind Slick Loose Change Production?

Alex Jones pal Mike Rivero might be the computer graphics wiz behind the slick "loose change" video allegedly produced by that group of young losers who hadn't produced so much as a youtube video before. He seems to spend most of his time promoting conspiracy theories that protect the "victim" Iran against the "villian" Israel, though that doesn't prove any linkage or that he is promoting / producing propaganda for Iran or has any special relationship with their government. Rivero on Hareetz. If at first you don't succeed ..

. • Michael Rivero •17.01.12 •22:37 "And Iran will tear the tags off of their seat cushions, and the wings off of butterflies! Iran will be cruel to animals. Iran will illegally copy old TV shows! Iran smells bad and dresses funny!" (ahem) Obviously Israel is not happy that the EU yanked the rug out from under the sanctions, which derailed the plan to provoke Iran over the Straight of Hormuz. So, Israel is trying to find some other means to trigger a war with Iran, a war that Americans children will be blown to bits trying to finish. Brand new conspiracy theory, Iran is good guy/ victim, US and Israel are the bad guys USS Enterprise False Flag!! www.sodahead.com/united...enterprise-false-flag/question-2419373/ USS Enterprise False Flag!! by Sean Posted January 26, 2012 18:23:02 (11 minutes ago). Related Topics: Flag. +1 Rave; 1 Share. Read all 1 opinions ... USS Enterprise False Flag!! | The God That Failed thegodthatfailed.org/2012/01/26/uss-enterprise-false-flag/ USS Enterprise False Flag!! Posted on January 26, 2012 by Andy Duncan. An interesting video from InfoWars: ... USS Enterprise False Flag!! - YouTube ► 2:37► 2:37 www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufdw21ltc-8NEW2 days ago - 3 min - Uploaded by Snordelhans The Heretic presents, Mike Rivero's "USS Enterprise False Flag" from http:// whatreallyhappened.com/ Uncle ... *** MAKE VIRAL *** USS Enterprise False Flag!! [Heretic ... ► 2:37► 2:37 www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOGnFepzvysNEW2 days ago - 3 min - Uploaded by KnewWorldNoing The Heretic presents, Mike Rivero's "USS Enterprise False Flag" from http:// whatreallyhappened.com ... More videos for enterprise false flag » The Vatic Project: USS Enterprise False Flag!! vaticproject.blogspot.com/2012/01/uss-enterprise-false-flag.html 1 day ago – The Heretic presents, Mike Rivero's "USS Enterprise False Flag" from http://whatreallyhappened.com/ Uncle Sam and Auntie Semite, a wicked ... USS Enterprise False Flag? Cheaper to sink than decomission ... www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1764323/pg3 10 hours ago – Discussion about USS Enterprise False Flag? Cheaper to sink than decomission? Reason to attack Iran? Remember the Enterprise? USS Enterprise False Flag! - David Icke Website www.davidicke.com/headlines/60081-uss-enterprise-false-flag 1 day ago – David Icke - Exposing the dreamworld we believe to be real. WAFF | World's Armed Forces Forum: USS Enterprise False Flag www.network54.com/Forum/211833/.../USS+Enterprise+False+Flag 7 posts - 3 authors - 23 hours ago USS Enterprise False Flag. January 25 2012 at 8:34 PM No score for this post, swoopmaster (Login swoopmaster) The Anusiya (Iran) ... USS Enterprise False Flag: No, It's Not Star Trek! | Sovereign ... www.sovereignindependent.com/?p=33965 1 day ago – The Heretic presents, Mike Rivero's “USS Enterprise False Flag” from whatreallyhappened.com. Uncle Sam and Auntie Semite, a wicked piece ... False Flag Operation Coming against USS Enterprise? www.economicpolicyjournal.com/.../false-flag-operation-coming-aga... 1 day ago – False Flag Operation Coming against USS Enterprise? The USSEnterprise is scheduled to be in the Gulf in the next few weeks. It is the oldest . posted by neo-nazi site stormfront http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t781468/ http://sreaves32.wordpress.com/2012/01/17/michael-rivero-on-next-false-flag-to-start-world-war-iii/ (this blog also posts the usual pro-Iran conspiracy theory sources like Global research and Alex Jones) Iran's Press TV is promoting this story. Of course they have no relationship with either Rivero or Fetzer who usually paint Iran a hapless victim of Isreal. IRAN TARGET OF FALSE FLAG STRATEGY? By James Fetzer and Joshua Blakeney | PressTV Several warnings of an imminent “false flag” attack by the Israeli-influenced US on one of its own warships, which will be attributed to Iran, have been reported by several reliable sources. In recent years “false-flag” terrorism has been utilized multiple times by US and Israeli political actors to provide pretexts for otherwise unjustifiable, anti-Islamic military excursions. The plan is to justify an all-out assault on Iran based upon a new fabricated “Pearl Harbor”. Israel is the primary motivator behind the attempts to destabilize Iran. US traditional foreign policy was one of attempting to foster stability in the Middle East for oil markets. The Zionist impulse, conversely, is to destabilize all potential regional hegemons and carve the Middle East up into ethno-religious statelets. Thus, since the fraudulent events of 9/11, we’ve seen a policy of Middle East disintegration being pursued by Israeli-influenced American politicians. Indeed, recently released CIA memos reveal that Mossad agents have been posing as CIA agents and conscripting anti-Iranian terrorists. Former Israeli intelligence officer, Avi Perry, startlingly wrote in a January 9th Jerusalem Post article of a forthcoming “ ‘Pearl Harbor’ scenario, in which Iran [will] launch…a “surprise” attack on the US navy,” giving the US “the perfect rationalization to finish them [Iran] off.” Tellingly, Perry chose to put the word “surprise” in quotation marks. Is Perry telling us something? Perry asserts: “[an] Iranian attack on an American military vessel will serve as a justification and a pretext for a retaliatory move by the US military against the Iranian regime.” However, Perry identifies “a US aircraft carrier” as the likely target of this imagined Iranian attack. We beg to differ. There are major indications that the vessel of choice is to be the USS Vincennes. The fourth USS Vincennes (CG-49) is a US Navy Ticonderoga class Aegis guided missile cruiser. On July 3, 1988, the ship shot down Iran Air Flight 655 over the Persian Gulf, killing all 290 civilian passengers on board, including 38 non-Iranians and 66 children. This would be an ideal vessel for the staged provocation as it could be easily sold to the world as having been Iranian retribution for the 1988 downing of Flight 655. That way the evident lack of motive for Iran to provoke the US and Israeli military will be replaced by a perceived “motive.” No one will stop to ask themselves why Iran would thereby engage itself in a major war. If we were to believe the Wikipedia version of history the Vincennes has already been scrapped. The Wikipedia article for the Vincennes states, “The Vincennes was completely scrapped by 23 November 2011.” If that were true it could not be used as the target of this “false-flag” attack. Yet we have photographic and testimonial evidence suggesting otherwise. A reliable source interviewed by one of us has brought us up to speed on the latest developments: “We now know what that INACTIVE Ticonderoga class AEGIS missile cruiser got towed out of here under cover of darkness for. It’ll likely be the sacrificial lamb that starts the war with Iran…. “Why else would they move it when all the rest sit at a buoy here for months before they finally leave to be sunk? “I told this to a former 9/11 Truth person back when that ship got moved that it was likely to be used for a FALSE FLAG attack. Well, we’ll soon see if I was right about this one.” Since the ship left Puget Sound in the dead of night about two months ago, it’s most probable location today is at the 5th Fleet Headquarters in Bahrain for safe keeping until the time comes for its deployment. The ship would have been refurbished and repainted and provided with remote control capabilities. “That is the only location in the region outside of Haifa Harbor where she could probably be at least partially concealed by cocooning the superstructure to make it less obvious who she is. Meanwhile, the US Navy is compiling a list of casualties based upon deceased sailors, very much as was the case on 9/11,” we were advised. Former Israeli false-flag attacks, such as on the USS Liberty in 1967, and the Argentine attacks in 1992 and in 1994, demonstrate Israel’s willingness to attack US targets, on the one hand, and its own people, on the other. It’s highly probable that, having shipped the Vincennes into an acceptable location, that the Mossad, which has also been implicated in the events of 9/11, would do the rest of the dirty work. Or the United States, which has become Israel’s lackey, might blow up one of its own ships, which would be a literal and a figurative sign of how low the US has sunk. As a Marine Corps officer, I, Jim Fetzer, swore an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Neither I nor any other officer I know ever swore allegiance to the State of Israel. Our leaders are not only betraying our own Constitution but have turned our nation into a servant of an unworthy, brutal and tyrannical master, who couldn’t care less about the best interests of American citizens–and our own leaders not only permit this to happen but actually promote it. In light of recent “deep political events” in Iran, including the recent murder of Iranian nuclear physicist Professor Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, it would not be surprising if the US and Israel were to raise the ante by implementing a fraudulent trigger incident, which may very well ignite World War III. Because of the pervasiveness of US-Israeli deceptions, an increasing number of public intellectuals are awakening to the prospect of these fraudulent events before they happen, as appears to be the case with this initiative. We can’t be certain about all of this, because we are on the outside, looking in. Perhaps the USS Vincennes actually has been scrapped. But on this point the world can rest assured: they haven’t scrapped the plan!

Alex Jones / Mike Rivero / Jeff Rense / Willis Carto / Ron Paul Axis of Evil?

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by socrates » Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:12 am

Is Michael Rivero sincere in his insanity, or is he paid to provoke divide and conquer and violence? How can folks not see that fakes are all over the internet spreading propaganda? Sure there is anti-semitism. There is also racism, sexism, homophobia, and lots of bad stuff. But I'm talking about a specific form of fakery. I'm talking about Michael Rivero, Hal Turner, and Jeff Rense. I'm talking about people posting on "lefty" blogs who speak of "Jew boys" like Virgil at Progressive Independent. I'm talking about some loser at Rivero's What Really Happened shitdive, who equates this recent murder at the Holocaust Museum to cointelpro. The person even had the gall to link to a fine website named Third World Traveler, which is an authentic, progressive domain. I'm talking about an anti-semite named Mattes who spreads disinformation all over soapblox {DKos} blogs while linking directly to Michael Rivero.

These are the Palestinians' worst enemies. I found a Michael Rivero podcast. He's saying this whole thing smells fishy. That the elderly gunman was shooting at the walls to garner attention and not to maim anyone, as if he murdered the security guard in self-defense. I've been googling a bit. I could write fifty pages on this. I could copy and paste tons of rubbish from right wingers posing as lefties posing as holocaust deniers and Jew haters. Rivero also says that Israel suckered the U.S. into attacking Iraq. 

The situation is bad in the Middle East. The Palestinians are getting a raw deal. But the more these types spread their propaganda, and the more shallow people buy it up that anti-semitism is growing on the left, the more right of center politicians like Obama do what ever they want to help out the rich and continue pumping money into the military industrial complex. 

I don't have the time anymore to keep blogging hours on end for free. The same bull the few of us have tried to explain so many times before is being reproduced over and over again. The guy I mentioned at Tinoire's Progressive Independent? I now see him pimping for Alex Jones. Now why would Alex Jones, as right wing as they come, be promoted at a so-called progressive website? He wouldn't be, if the place was for real. That forum has been a sponsor for Michael Rivero. Rivero sponsors Jones, Curtis Maynard, Willis Carto and all various types of propagandists and/or vice versa.

I'm gonna email the_last_name_left and let him know I've made this post. He was telling me about this story. The irony is that it is fueling the wingnuts and their drive to create useful idiots and provoke mayhem. You wouldn't believe how Rivero turns it around. He's asking who benefits. Others are posting that this was a hoax and a false flag event. This is lunacy. These are not progressives. These are paid fakes who make money to pervert democratic processes on the internet. It's all about right woos left and tinfoil by association. And the worst part of all is that the two major American forums, Democratic Underground and Daily Kos, have been proven to be rigged. 

We have found out that Hal Turner has had FBI ties. We do know about cointelpro, so that is very suspicious. Now what about Rivero? Could he be a member of the Mossad? Think about it. That's the Israeli equivalent of the CIA. Let's take what Rivero has just said in his podcast- about asking who benefits from this horrific murder and turn the tables on the Rivero, Carto, Maynard, and Rense types. It does benefit the Israeli's in favour of asymetrical warfare. So why is Rivero spreading the tinfoil extra thick? Why are these people associated with holocaust deniers? Why are any "lefties" linking to Rivero? Who does it benefit to have outrageous tinfoil spread about "the Jooos" controlling the world? Those in favour of the status quo is who would promote such hogwash. Why does Michael Rivero hate the Palestinians? Why does he hate Jewish people? Does he love the Israeli and American militaries so much to justify acting the buffoon role? It appears so. Does he hate the left? Yes he does. Here's the creep's podcast, where one can listen in and see that Michael Rivero is some kind of monster.

http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast//what_really/061009.mp3

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Re: Internet Fakes Creating Outrage At Jewish People

by the_last_name_left » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:29 pm

hey - you covered a lot of ground in there! 

I feel like adding a few things about Rivero: through all he writes, there's a distinct lack of sympathy with any victim whom happens to be jewish. That isn't compassion, it's anti-semitism. In this example he doesn't betray the least sign of genuine compassion towards a security guard gunned down in cold blood by some nutter. A nutter of the ilk Rivero is clearly seeking to breed through his espousal of a massive conspiracy needing to be opposed by gun-wielding aggressive patriotism; all mixed up with heavy does of racism and anti-semitism - and a seemingly purposeful effort to blur the boundaries between fascism and liberalism, conservatism or libertarianism - and by so doing, create an opportunity to foist far-right memes into conservative, liberal, and even socialist discourse (if 911 troofers can be considered to have "discourse" - lol)

It's no surprise that Rivero promotes holocaust denial - it's a great thread for him to hang everything on: it breeds distrust in institutions, even in "history" and "science" and "education". It is anti-semitic - and inevitably promotes the idea that the jews are "deceptive" because it implies the holocaust is a deception. And if the holocaust is a deception, then - wow, anything could be, right!? Then it inevitably seeks to rehabilitate Nazism - because they couldn't have been as bad as we thought, and in fact it's Nazis whom have been the victims all along. 

From this perspective, it isn't difficult to see why Rivero seems to find it very hard to show any compassion over the murder at the Holocaust Museum. Nor why he seems desperate to distance himself from the whole thing - to downplay it - to make out that it's a setup......anything other than recognise he and the murderer are even fellow-travellers. They appear to hold very similar beliefs, they share similar sources, share perspectives and political positions, whatever you want to call it - they're seemingly ideological brethren and mixed up in all the same stuff: conspiracism, holocaust denial, fascism, anti-socialism, ultra nationalism, NWO, FED conspiracy, jewish/NEOCON world conspiracy/coup, jewish/banking conspiracy, jewish/media conspiracy, everything.

His 'support' for palestinians seems cynical exploitation of the issue: similar atrocities in Sri Lanka or Turkey/Iraq-Kurdistan draw none of the outrage Rivero seems to especially reserve for Israel. It's a very common characteristic found in 911 troof and associated critics' discourse - extreme criticism of Israel for actions that go unnoticed and unremarked upon elsewhere, such as Sri Lanka, Turkey, Chechnya, Congo.

All too often it appears criticism of Israel/jews takes precedence over compassion for everyone. Attacking the jews/Israel seems more important than opposing violence everywhere. The concentration upon, and strength of condemnation of Israeli atrocities seems to suggest Palestinians are especially important victims. Why would that be? one answer is because they're the victims of jews/Israel, and that's especially important to anti-semitism, as it provides a good "liberal" or "socialist" cover behind which to attack the jews/Israel, and provides yet another clandestine opening for the dissemination of far-right propaganda and ideology. 

Rivero and AJ et al protested heartily about the whole domestic terrorism thing the DHS issued recently........and yet just the other day Rivero was suggesting this Von Brunn dude was 'mixed up with everyone'........and that the attack by Von Brunn on the Holocaust museum would be used to smear 'resistors of the NWO' or some such. Doesn't add up really, does it?

Then there's Rivero's attraction to self-defence, and his promotion of gun ownership, his promotion of massive conspiracy sprinkled with exhortations towards action towards nationalist revolution........all mixed up with Curt Maynard, Willis Carto's cliques, Birdman Bryant....and all the rest......a heady mix.

Left-wing or progressive it ain't - that's for sure?

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Re: Internet Fakes Creating Outrage At Jewish People

by socrates » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:32 pm

Thanks for the post. You've been very good at what you do. It's a shame that Trausti of one of the WRH offshoot forums has decided to hide his domain from the public. It makes me wonder real hard about that guy, whether he has been a plant the whole time. He writes that nothing from his place may be published elsewhere. He says it is his property. Perhaps his forum was set up from the beginning as a honey pot, to lure in any free thinkers like yourself and to trap them within the honeycomb. Perhaps he doesn't want the world to know that he has used the N word in referring to Obama. I think he looks like a white power dude. I know that's not fair to judge someone on their looks, but heck, I guess with him censoring your fine work and calling Obama the N word, he deserves it.

That's a great point you make, how Rivero has dehumanized the world. The shooting wasn't just about a deranged holocaust denier. These people are white supremacists. Rivero has published the bizarre writings of Curtis Maynard. Thus, he is part of that hate. Rivero is affiliated to Jeff Rense. Thus, he is tied into that. Alex Jones is now closely tied to Michael Rivero. Thus, Alex Jones is now part and parcel of the "Joos did it" network of propaganda. Tinoire of Progressive Independent is affiliated with Desert Peace and Michael Rivero. Now that is a specific place where right woos left. It is obvious to the few of us. We did the googling. We learned of Willis Carto. This isn't rocket science.

Of course, when gadflies like ourselves are critical of Israeli policies towards the Palestinians, this goes unnoticed by the propagandists. They are too busy saying we are fools to call them racists and Jew haters despite such truths being wide in the open for all to see. Rivero speaks of his first wife being Jewish. So that means Rivero can't possibly be a Jew hating propagandist? Get out of town. Maynard spews about his Mexican wife. He asks how can anyone say he is a white supremacist. I'm not gonna link to that vile person, but this is from his own gutter mouth.

...Believe it or not, I'm often accused of being a racist. I know why this is, it's because I insist on telling the truth in my own unique and unapologetic manner. I often use terms like nigger, kike, meskin, and faggot in my missives, when describing various things you'd never otherwise hear about if it weren't for my blog.

...I utilize terms like "nigger, kike, meskin, and faggot" because it clearly reveals to others that lightning bolts won't come out of the sky and strike them down for violating the man made tenets of political correctness. I'm a politically correct apostate after all, I don't believe in the self censoring precepts of Zionist Jew indoctrination.

He's upset that I didn't publish his hate speech on my blog dedicated to the memory of liberal activist David Weintraub. I'm all into free speech. Yet, I am also vehemently opposed to troll spam. Another Jew hater goes by the name of Hal Turner. It turns out that Hal has been fairly close with the right wing television propagandist, Sean Hannity. We are looking at good cop bad cop. The problem for "good cops" like Hannity and Rivero is that they go too far. When they can become linked to people goading others to violent thoughts and actions, then their right to act as if they have even a smidgen of credibility goes out the window. Alex Jones seemed to have distanced himself from the Jew haters. You were articulate in the past explaining how he uses coded phrases to replace outright hate speech. So instead of using vile words such as "kike" and "zio-nazis," Jones has spoken of bankers and Hollywood. Nonetheless, now that Alex Jones can be clearly tied to the hip of Michael Rivero, as Rivero is the same to Maynard, they can all be seen as racist propagandists.

I think a lot of propaganda comes out of NASA. I base that on things I've read about concerning astroturfing. The owner of Chemtrail Central has admitted to working for them. Same with Rivero. I just did some googling and will have one link to share. But with another one I noticed how Rivero says his wife's name was added to some list put into space. He says he thinks they added her name, because she sent a free album of hers to astronauts. Hmmm. It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Rivero has worked for NASA? It wouldn't have to do with Michael Rivero being tied to military domains? Why did Michael Rivero have an email address for McDonnell Douglas, a defense contractor, and for NASA? Could perhaps those explain how his wife's name got added to some names in space project?

I listened to a bit more of that audio I linked to above. What is up with Rivero making comments with no proof? He does think the Holocaust Museum shooting was probably a hoax. He also is trying to minimize Brunn's internet activities. No way in hell do the propagandists want the reader to decide and then be able to see that they are fueling hate and violence. The most ironic thing I have read the last few days was with a white supremacist arguing for civil disobedience. Open up a can of spaghetti-o's and invite me late to dinner.

Rivero was filling in his audience on the American Nazi movement from the 1930's. He spoke of the dude caught embezzling money. He then had the gall to link that man to the ADL. I went googling. There is no proof of that. In short, I believe Michael Rivero is a deliberately created strawman in the vein of being the Palestinians' worst enemy. He makes it seem Israel and Jewish people are on the brink of being exterminated by growing anti-semitism. I am not saying there aren't people who sincerely hate Jewish people and Israel. But I don't believe there numbers are that large. This is what astroturfing is all about; to create the illusion of a substantial grassroots movement, that just isn't there. Take away the image of a vulnerable Israel, and perhaps we could see a Palestinian homeland or an Israel full of equality. I am thinking about Northern Ireland. These are problems that have been going on for centuries. My goal here has been to show the possibility that Rivero is not sincere with his words, that he could very well be a spook working psychological operations. The Brunn dude, as disgusting a person as he is, has been the proverbial useful idiot. Take away the Rivero's, the Tinoire's, the Maynard's, the Carto's, and all the other suppliers of hate rubbish on the net, and I simply don't believe this recent tragedy would have taken place. 

Much of the following you already know about. But a part of it, folks may not. I believe this is proof that Rivero is disingenuous, that he isn't an organically developed wingnut. I believe he is acting. Same with Jones. Same with Turner. Maynard may actually be a real fruit loop. Hey, they are all nuts. But my point is, that I think many of these big internet names don't even believe what they post. They are simply abetting the status quo with their tinfoil by association and hate noise. 

http://www.rense.com/general24/spy.htm

Ok, first the stuff we already know about. This was written in 2002.

More lies from Rivero:

...So, when Arial Sharon openly bragged on October 3rd that, "We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it", why should I not find this statement objectionable, and anti-American? Why should I not feel something less than affection for the man who made that statement?

The problem is Sharon never said that. Yet, it fuels the Rivero/Rense/Maynard/Carto spiels of "Run for the hills, it's the Joos." Same as like that guy from the American Nazi group wasn't associated with the ADL. Rivero lies. Then ironically he speaks of how we must be critical of others who have agendas. Ma Pot meet Pa Kettle.

...I've run this web site for over 8 years. You can check through the pre 9/11 version of What Really Happened for yourself to see if I have had any excessive preoccupation with Israel during that time. Only in recent weeks have I even mentioned Israel, and that solely because the ACTIONS of the government of Israel have called attention to Israel.

...In the course of that reporting, it was revealed by a US official that evidence exists linking 9/11 to persons other than Muslim Arabs, but that this evidence is CLASSIFIED. That too is NEWS. Deal with it.

There are many disturbing questions that revolve around 9/11. Even the_last_name_left admits this. No one is saying that the Israeli government isn't doing wrong in the Gaza Strip. What we have bonded on are facts, that a disgusting circle of wingnuts have been spamming the internet with their hate tinfoil. I think it is quite telling that Rivero all of a sudden shifted from his previous crazy stuff to focusing in on "The Joos did it." The shift was not organic. It was too abrupt. It was too coordinated with other websites such as Rense dot com. It's too lacking in evidence. It's a cereal filled with too much cuckoo bananas.

I believe much of this Jew hating rubbish has been deliberately planted propaganda. I believe that the numbers of folks who actually believe this shite is very small. Thus, I think this group of nasty meanies is relying on funding from black op, status quo sources, and that many of the usernames are sock puppets and closely associated. I don't need any more proof of how insidious Alex Jones is based on his close ties to Michael Rivero. I don't need any more proof that Rivero is bad news based on his ties to Curtis Maynard and Jeff Rense. I need no more evidence that Tinoire and Progressive Independent is bad news based on their close ties to Rivero. I need no more proof that right woos left is fact, when so much of this rubbish ends up finding itself on so-called progressive domains. I need no more proof that these are deliberately created strawmen used by the "grown-ups" on "progressive" boards who predominantly end up siding with folks who condone the Israeli government's atrocities in the name of self-defense. I see this all as being a sophisticated, controlled script. Authentic progressives, peaceniks, and intellectuals need not apply.

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   1 day ago – The Heretic presents, Mike Rivero's “USS Enterprise False Flag” from whatreallyhappened.com. Uncle Sam and Auntie Semite, a wicked piece ...

10. False Flag Operation Coming against USS Enterprise?

    www.economicpolicyjournal.com/.../false-flag-operation-coming-aga...

    1 day ago – False Flag Operation Coming against USS Enterprise? The USSEnterprise is scheduled to be in the Gulf in the next few weeks. It is the oldest . posted by neo-nazi site stormfront http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t781468/
11. http://sreaves32.wordpress.com/2012/01/17/michael-rivero-on-next-false-flag-to-start-world-war-iii/
12. (this blog also posts the usual pro-Iran conspiracy theory sources like Global research and Alex Jones)
13. Iran's Press TV is promoting this story. Of course they have no relationship with either Rivero or Fetzer who usually paint Iran a hapless victim of Isreal.

15. IRAN TARGET OF FALSE FLAG STRATEGY?

    By James Fetzer and Joshua Blakeney | PressTV Several warnings of an imminent “false flag” attack by the Israeli-influenced US on one of its own warships, which will be attributed to Iran, have been reported by several reliable sources. In recent years “false-flag” terrorism has been utilized multiple times by US and Israeli political actors to provide pretexts for otherwise unjustifiable, anti-Islamic military excursions. The plan is to justify an all-out assault on Iran based upon a new fabricated “Pearl Harbor”. Israel is the primary motivator behind the attempts to destabilize Iran. US traditional foreign policy was one of attempting to foster stability in the Middle East for oil markets. The Zionist impulse, conversely, is to destabilize all potential regional hegemons and carve the Middle East up into ethno-religious statelets. Thus, since the fraudulent events of 9/11, we’ve seen a policy of Middle East disintegration being pursued by Israeli-influenced American politicians. Indeed, recently released CIA memos reveal that Mossad agents have been posing as CIA agents and conscripting anti-Iranian terrorists. Former Israeli intelligence officer, Avi Perry, startlingly wrote in a January 9th Jerusalem Post article of a forthcoming “ ‘Pearl Harbor’ scenario, in which Iran [will] launch…a “surprise” attack on the US navy,” giving the US “the perfect rationalization to finish them [Iran] off.” Tellingly, Perry chose to put the word “surprise” in quotation marks. Is Perry telling us something? Perry asserts: “[an] Iranian attack on an American military vessel will serve as a justification and a pretext for a retaliatory move by the US military against the Iranian regime.” However, Perry identifies “a US aircraft carrier” as the likely target of this imagined Iranian attack. We beg to differ. There are major indications that the vessel of choice is to be the USS Vincennes. The fourth USS Vincennes (CG-49) is a US Navy Ticonderoga class Aegis guided missile cruiser. On July 3, 1988, the ship shot down Iran Air Flight 655 over the Persian Gulf, killing all 290 civilian passengers on board, including 38 non-Iranians and 66 children. This would be an ideal vessel for the staged provocation as it could be easily sold to the world as having been Iranian retribution for the 1988 downing of Flight 655. That way the evident lack of motive for Iran to provoke the US and Israeli military will be replaced by a perceived “motive.” No one will stop to ask themselves why Iran would thereby engage itself in a major war. If we were to believe the Wikipedia version of history the Vincennes has already been scrapped. The Wikipedia article for the Vincennes states, “The Vincennes was completely scrapped by 23 November 2011.” If that were true it could not be used as the target of this “false-flag” attack. Yet we have photographic and testimonial evidence suggesting otherwise. A reliable source interviewed by one of us has brought us up to speed on the latest developments: “We now know what that INACTIVE Ticonderoga class AEGIS missile cruiser got towed out of here under cover of darkness for.   It’ll likely be the sacrificial lamb that starts the war with Iran…. “Why else would they move it when all the rest sit at a buoy here for months before they finally leave to be sunk? “I told this to a former 9/11 Truth person back when that ship got moved that it was likely to be used for a FALSE FLAG attack. Well, we’ll soon see if I was right about this one.” Since the ship left Puget Sound in the dead of night about two months ago, it’s most probable location today is at the 5th Fleet Headquarters in Bahrain for safe keeping until the time comes for its deployment. The ship would have been refurbished and repainted and provided with remote control capabilities. “That is the only location in the region outside of Haifa Harbor where she could probably be at least partially concealed by cocooning the superstructure to make it less obvious who she is. Meanwhile, the US Navy is compiling a list of casualties based upon deceased sailors, very much as was the case on 9/11,” we were advised. Former Israeli false-flag attacks, such as on the USS Liberty in 1967, and the Argentine attacks in 1992 and in 1994, demonstrate Israel’s willingness to attack US targets, on the one hand, and its own people, on the other. It’s highly probable that, having shipped the Vincennes into an acceptable location, that the Mossad, which has also been implicated in the events of 9/11, would do the rest of the dirty work. Or the United States, which has become Israel’s lackey, might blow up one of its own ships, which would be a literal and a figurative sign of how low the US has sunk. As a Marine Corps officer, I, Jim Fetzer, swore an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Neither I nor any other officer I know ever swore allegiance to the State of Israel.   Our leaders are not only betraying our own Constitution but have turned our nation into a servant of an unworthy, brutal and tyrannical master, who couldn’t care less about the best interests of American citizens–and our own leaders not only permit this to happen but actually promote it. In light of recent “deep political events” in Iran, including the recent murder of Iranian nuclear physicist Professor Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, it would not be surprising if the US and Israel were to raise the ante by implementing a fraudulent trigger incident, which may very well ignite World War III. Because of the pervasiveness of US-Israeli deceptions, an increasing number of public intellectuals are awakening to the prospect of these fraudulent events before they happen, as appears to be the case with this initiative. We can’t be certain about all of this, because we are on the outside, looking in. Perhaps the USS Vincennes actually has been scrapped. But on this point the world can rest assured: they haven’t scrapped the plan!