October 18, 2016
Todd Beamer High School Federal Way Black Lives Matters Controversy Oct. 18, Federal Way police officers were on campus investigating reports of a student with a weapon when they were asked to respond to an unrelated student fight between girls in the lunch room. One girl resisted causing two officers to fall to the ground where a hostile crowd gathered and was yelling and hostile toward police. When told she was under arreste she kicked kicked at one officer, striking him in the thigh, chest, and stomach, and in the face breaking his glasses. She was overpowered and put into handcuffs and led away from the school. The student who made the original threat on social media was also disruptive and had to be arrested. After a massive Black Lives Matter event protesting the arrest students were criticized who did not participate. After 14 year old white freshman Ellie Mae Hanie speaks up against pressure to support black lives matters at the school board, at school she is confronted by the same irl who was violently arrested. After she was surrounded by a mob, she was told by school officials to stay away from school from her own safety and now has withdrawn from school, and the school resource officer who did the arrest is reassigned. The Girl who assaulted resource officer violently and cussing is back in school, still has not been identified.
Alternative theory: Was this a setup with a threat to bring police into the school, where they would then be directed to a fight where girls would resist arrest, and cause a Black Lives Matter incident to protest?
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Lawyer says that district is trying very hard to not show racial disparity in discipline, fix is to let students do anything they want so they will not spoil racial balance in incidents
Student who stood up against evil has withdrawn from the school because the school district only protects the girl who was arrested
Girl assaulted and shoved 3 school officials including principal day before, they told police to arrest her the next time which was the next day
Resource officer was re-assigned
Student who complained about protest is harassed, police told girl best to not go to school for her own safety
KVI calls it "nonsense that must be stoppeed"
A crowd of students had gathered at that point and were reportedly yelling and hostile toward police.
The officers told the girl she was under arrest, but she resisted. She kicked at one officer, striking him in the thigh, chest, and stomach. The officer was also struck in the face, causing his glasses to break. Eventually, the girl was overpowered and put into handcuffs and led away from the school.
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WikipediaTodd Beamer High School is a four-year secondary school located in Federal Way, Washington within the Federal Way School District. The school was built in ...
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Freshman student Ellie Mae Hanie told KIRO 7 she chose not to participate partially because of ... "It started after a girl was arrested during a fight," Hanie said.
Police report details initial fight that led to controversy at Todd Beamer
MyNorthwest.com-Oct 28, 2016
A police report obtained by “The Dori Monson Show” details the incident at Federal Way's Todd Beamer high School that sparked controversy. On Oct. 18 ...
Oct. 18, Federal Way police officers were on campus investigating reports of a student with a weapon when they were asked to respond to an unrelated student fight in the lunch room.
The students were separated and one was taken to the school office. But the other girl, according to the report, was marching through the halls to the office with a “determined, direct stare.” Other students were lingering behind to see the outcome. The police report states it appeared as if another fight was about to happen. Two school officials tried to stop the girl from going to the office, but the girl pushed them aside. The officials stayed with her but she continued.
That’s when two officers got involved but the girl was undeterred. At one point the officer “tried to control her but she resisted and pulled away more,” the report states. This caused both officers to fall to the ground. A crowd of students had gathered at that point and were reportedly yelling and hostile toward police.
The officers told the girl she was under arrest, but she resisted. She kicked at one officer, striking him in the thigh, chest, and stomach. The officer was also struck in the face, causing his glasses to break. Eventually, the girl was overpowered and put into handcuffs and led away from the school.
The police report states that the girl apologized for fighting with the officer once at the police station.
Since then, students have been criticized by their peers for not participating in a Black Lives Matter event that was held after the arrest.
One student who did not participate was a 14-year-old freshman who said she felt that the Black Lives Matter event at the school was misdirected. She did not want to participate in an event that was a result of an out-of-control student attacking a police officer. But some of her peers disagree. The freshman and students like her have been called racists ever since. She was confronted on Wednesday by about 50 students screaming threats at her. According to KIRO 7, a school security officers advised her mother to keep her away from school for a few days while things cool down.
ElKitePics • 3 days ago
See if I got this straight.
Black Lives Matter organizes an event in support of school violence, and to prove they mean business, they violently assault anyone who doesn't support school violence.
somehow, we're told there are TWO legitimate sides to this.
Beam me UP, Scotty. I've seen enough of this crap.
Dan • 3 days ago
Once again, if you have kids, get them to the best private school you can afford. Public School has failed.
scott Dan • 3 days ago
Or a Charter school.
Regresa de Paul, y que? • 3 days ago
A day before the teachers staged their BLM stunt. To sum it up: The teachers and administration are encouraging and instigating this anarchy. It is fed by racial hatred, which they encourage. The police have been neutered and are fearful. It is dangerous and will only get worse. It is similar in nature to Cambodia in the '70's. If you care about your children's education and safety, get them out of public schools now, especially if they are white.
AnkleBiter Guest • 3 days ago
Any teacher wearing the BLM shirt in that school should be fired.
Straight up dysfunctional black culture.
Young black teen attacks cops, gets arrested, 50 other students attack another student for not supporting the criminal who attacked the cops.
That's just great culture there.
Go to Kitsap county and check out the dysfunctional white culture.
ObsidianOne • 3 days ago
This is the real story about what happened: "Black students at Todd Beamer High School (TBHS) in Federal Way, Washington, are crying racism after a black girl was arrested for hitting a policeman. A fight broke out between two students and a
police officer assigned to the school tried to break up the fight by separating the two, when one of the girls punched him. He put the cuffs on her and led her off the campus. For this, black students and school staff, screamed racism. The school then called for a day of support for BLM. Students were told to wear black in support. Those that refused were called racists." LESSON HERE: NEVER hit another human let alone an officer of the law.
AnkleBiter • 3 days ago
Segregation was ugly chapter in American history but if this keeps up it will be back. All "Black Lives Matter" has achieved here is to cause racial hatred to boil over. Any teacher in that school who has been wearing a BLM shirt should be ashamed. Should resign. Over a century of civil rights progress in this country is being flushed down the toilet.
Akbar Khan AnkleBiter • 3 days ago
"Over a century of civil rights progress in this country is being flushed down the toilet."
How did this so called civil rights progress benefit the black community?
Before the onset of the Civil Rights Act of 1964: segregated schools, Jim Crow laws, segregated communities and red-lining of mortgages, institutional racism in hiring practices, etc. etc. Maybe you should read some history books instead of comic books.
King Leer DEC50 • 2 days ago
Then the Great Society kicked in and STOPPED the plummeting black poverty rate.
JimInAuburn Akbar Khan • 2 days ago
Well, lets see. They went from recently being slaves, to being free. The went from being lynched to not being lynched. They went from having to sit in the back of the bus to sitting wherever they want. They went from using the black drinking fountain to using whatever one they wanted. They went from being a sharecropper to being president.
I think you need to pay attention when Black History Month comes around again.
Attila • 3 days ago
Once again, liberal racism, violence and mob thuggery are on the march. Comply with our liberal demands or we will set our racist, violent mob on you. Would it perhaps be appropriate to expel the
No, no, no....can't do that, they've already reached their yearly limit for expelling black students. If they expel another one their statistics will look bad.....can't have that tarnish their image.
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Bill • 3 days ago
BLM equals thuggery. Then, the Fed Way school district is now encouraging it and making this thug girl out to be a victim. public schools are a failed operation
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priv62 Bill • 2 days ago
I personally heard one of the Federal Way School board members say in front of a crowd of thousands "There IS institutional racism ... in Federal Way public schools!!!"
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Tim Lambro Sr. • 3 days ago
Crickets from the Seattle Times. Liberal rag afraid to touch the story. Thank you MYNW.Com
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CandrewB Tim Lambro Sr. • 3 days ago
Everyone is afraid of this story
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No safety • 3 days ago
What BLM event isn't misdirected?
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PBNJ62 • 3 days ago
From what kind of mind does this behavior leap? I really would like to understand why anyone thinks this type behavior is productive and sending a good message. And the administrators of this school?????????
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seattlelogic • 3 days ago
So the one that won't fall in line can't come to school?
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garuda • 3 days ago
Welcome to stupidville
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King Leer • 3 days ago
No on all school bond issues.
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ObsidianOne • 3 days ago
I'd pull my kid out of that school and enroll into private school so fast. What the superintendent said should be grounds for firing. NO one should be forced to participate in something. Ask Colin Kapernick.
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JimInAuburn ObsidianOne • 2 days ago
They should get an attorney. The parents of the freshman girl that is being threatened should sue the school district.
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B-squared • 3 days ago
Give her an A and send the 40 knuckleheads home
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tall, blond, and very hot • 2 days ago
Thanks, Obama.
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PoliceLivesMatter • 3 days ago
Mr. Sotomayor continues to predict their behavior dead on. Scary.
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FanofTheRedWhiteAndBlue • 3 days ago
So instead of expelling the group of kids that were threatening a fellow student they tell that student to go home? This is how some of our leaders wants our society to be. Everyone that votes for someone based on a letter after their name better wake up soon.
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CandrewB • 3 days ago
"Let's roll over!"
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Neopath • 3 days ago
The african american culture wants inclusiveness, yet strives to be singled out as different. Our schools in Washington support this segregation....yes, social segregation.
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DreyWalt • 3 days ago
The school district and officers need to get their story out there, open the discussion up to all the concerned parents and listen to what is being said. There is so much misinformation out there being reported as facts. The opinion piece above doesn't help matters.
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ShredWestSeattle DreyWalt • 3 days ago
This has been happening quietly all over the Puget Sound in public schools.
My youngest son went through something similar at West Seattle HS last spring. He, along with many of his friends (of several races) told the teachers that they were creating a race problem where there wasn't one. These kids had all grown up together, played sports together and race had never created any problems among them.
The teachers disgraceful liberal, racist, agenda was shot down fairly quickly by the students.
Fortunately, my son is off to a college that has not yet tuned into a PC snowflake haven.
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Gunnarii ShredWestSeattle • 3 days ago
There are some of those colleges around still ??
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JimInAuburn DreyWalt • 2 days ago
The opinion piece above that was taken from the police report?
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DreyWalt JimInAuburn • 2 days ago
Was it?
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JimInAuburn DreyWalt • 2 days ago
Well, the title of the article references the police report, and the story starts with:
"A police report obtained by “The Dori Monson Show” details the incident at Federal Way’s Todd Beamer high School that sparked controversy."
Then it proceeds to tell the sequence of events...
So yes, it seems more like a story about what the police report says, not an opinion piece.
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DreyWalt JimInAuburn • 2 days ago
Yeah, how did I miss all those quotes from the police...
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JimInAuburn DreyWalt • 2 days ago
Then get the police report. I can tell you what the story of Alice and Wonderland is without quoting the book. But I guess you would just assume that I was making it all up unless I quoted the book word for word.
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Gunnarii • 3 days ago
Well, well ,well. You don't say.
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Attila Guest • 3 days ago
The civil rights movement was a GOOD thing. 60 years of racist liberal pandering for Black votes contributed mightily to the erosions of family strucure, civil behavior, and the rise of the drug scourge and gangsta culture in the Black communities.
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Walkido L. Attila • 3 days ago
I would have to agree with Akbar Khan. MLK and the civil rights movement had the completely wrong priorities. Instead of fighting for black economic and political empowerment, they fought for integration and social acceptance. There is a huge distinction between social acceptance and economic and political empowerment. Before integration, blacks actually had their own. Their own businesses, stores, shops, theaters, schools, medical facilities, supermarkets, sports leagues, bus lines, and even a few banks. Then they went begging whites to be apart of their stuff. All MLK and the civil rights activists did was to beg white people for the right to be allowed to sit down next to them and to be able to patronize their businesses and institutions. The equality that he spoke of was never true equality but an opportunity to be next to white people.
MLK approached the subject of equal rights as a subordinate who hopes his superiors would be nice enough to give it to him. He spoke of loving your oppressors, begging them to love you, and begging them to give you rights. History is a witness that if you don't stand for your rights you will not be respected. No people who have shown themselves to be subordinates have ever been respected. As Booker T. Washington said “A whining crying race may be pitied but seldom respected”.
Instead of fighting for integration, they should have fought for empowerment to make black businesses and institutions stronger. They should have focused on standing on their own two feet and being self-sufficient, self-reliant, and to not depend on anyone but themselves. For example, if there's a segregated swimming pool, instead of begging the white man to allow you in, build your own swimming pool. Instead of begging whites for a job, create your own job, then you can choose to hire blacks or whites. Become self-sufficient and independent first, and then you can focus on integration. You can't move into somebody else's house and expect them to let you move around the furniture. If you're going to integrate, then you cannot do it from a weak position. You must have something to bring to the table, otherwise you will end up being dependent and subservient.
One of the facts of the world is that real power cannot be given, it must be taken. And the process of the taking is empowerment in itself. Other people cannot empower you, only you can empower yourself. MLK wanted the white man to do for the Negro instead of doing for self. This mentally created a spirit of dependency which affects the black community to this day. Black people are more dependent on whites today than they were before the civil rights movement. Black communities are in a far more self destructive mode today than they were 50 years ago.
Malcolm X once said:
"Having an opportunity to ride either on the front or the back or in the middle of someone else’s bus doesn’t dignify you. When you have your own bus, then you have dignity. When you have your own school, you have dignity. When you have your own country, you have dignity. When you have something of your own, you have dignity. But whenever you are begging for a chance to participate in that which belongs to someone else, or use that which belongs to someone else, on an equal basis with the owner, that’s not dignity. That’s ignorance. If I may add, for instance, King and these others will say that they are fighting for the Negro to have equal job opportunity. How can a group of people, such as our people, who own no factories, have equal job opportunities competing against a race that owns the factories? The only way the two can have equal job opportunities is if black people have factories as well as white people have factories. And then we can employ whites or we can employ blacks, just like they can employ whites or they can employ blacks. But as long as the factories are in the hands of the whites, the housing is in the hands of the whites, the school system is in the hands of the whites, you have a situation where the blacks are constantly begging the whites, can they use this or can they use that. That’s not any kind of equality of opportunity, nor does it lend toward one’s dignity."
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Attila Walkido L. • 3 days ago
No, the civil rights movement fought against state mandated segregation and Jim Crow-laws designed to impede Black Americans from voting.
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Walkido L. Attila • 3 days ago
Any attempt to force integration upon people who do not like nor see each other as equals is bound to fail. Malcolm X examined the hypocrisy of forced integration in this quote:
"Any effort to force integration upon whites is actually hypocritical. It is a form of hypocrisy involved.
If a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy. And what America is trying to do is pass laws to force whites to pretend that they want Negroes into their schools or in their places of employment.
Well, this is hypocrisy, and this makes a worse relationship between black and white, rather than if this could be brought about on a voluntary basis."
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SylMar • 2 days ago
And why weren't the kids in the mob that bullied the girl for not wearing the shirt punished or expelled for a few days. Their actions should not be tolerated at school or away from school. Our country is great because there is free speech and tolerance. But you cannot have free speech if you are not able to abide people speaking views that are different from your own. Kids need to be taught that they will hear lots of people speaking views that are different from their own throughout their lives in many different situations. They need to be tolerant of others views even while being passionate of their own views. Realize the greatness of this country is the ability to speak up about anything you want to. But it requires tolerance of every citizen to be able to listen and peacefully acknowledge that everyone has a right to their own views and beliefs, even if different from your own.
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JimInAuburn SylMar • 2 days ago
Unfortunately that is not the way the left and liberals work. Freedom of speech and tolerance, as long as you agree with them. It is so strange that they are not able to see that.
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JimInAuburn SylMar • 2 days ago
I am guessing because a large percentage were black, and it would not look good for the numbers to suspend a large number of black students. They were also probably afraid of making the rest of the students that support them mad, and losing control of the school even faster.
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SylMar • 2 days ago
This is why teachers and school employees should never adopt a message from any political organization. It can be inflammatory to the people in the community who feel passionately about it. Schools should and can easily find other ways to support black students without adopting the "Black Lives Matter" philosophies. They can wear black t-shirts that say "close the gap". And encouraging students to wear "Black Lives Matter" t-shirts to school should never be done. Would you encourage students to wear "Christianity matters" t-shirts to school? "Satanism matters" or others? Do you see the problem here? You shouldn't be pressuring kids to wear something that they might not support. Especially if they will be bullied because they chose not to wear a shirt.
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Ed Burggraf • 2 days ago
As a 'regular' high school (not alternative), they have a pretty interesting history. See Wikipedia.
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AgeofAquarius • 2 days ago
SMH. This is not what BLM is supposed be about. You can't bring about awareness of racism like this, by supporting, and condoning violence no matter what just because of someones race.
If anything it could sadly cause a backlash, or just simply cause people to not give a rat's behind.
It is counterintuitive to what BLM is supposed to bring about.
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Sebos • 2 days ago
"a school security officers advised her mother to keep her away from school for a few days while things cool down." This is the victim. This child did nothing wrong, except not go along with the leftist/progressive narrative, and now it is not safe for her to attend school. How about doing something about the mob yelling made-up insults at her? Does she too not deserve a "safe place?" Oops, sorry. Those must only be reserved for the oppressed liberal snowflakes.
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Ymbfkm Sebos • 2 days ago
You must have not gotten the memo that Blacks cannot be racists and they cannot commit hate crimes. They're not bullying her, they're just exercising their free speech rights. If they weren't being tolerant and understanding, they would have beaten the crap out if her, or lynched her.
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Sebos Ymbfkm • 2 days ago
Yeah, my bad.
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Marc Diamond • 2 days ago
And the parents of this fine young women -- where are they in all of this?
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King Leer • 2 days ago
This is why you can't have nice things.
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Joe Biggun • 3 days ago
She apologized at the police station AFTER the assault on the cops?
Well, that is a mitigating factor.
2 counts of felonious assault on 2 cops. Factor in the mitigating apology and she should have her sentence reduced to 5 years in prison.
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Ymbfkm • 3 days ago
I guess it is not racism when blacks threaten a white girl for not supporting their agenda. I guess bullies can't be held accountable if they're black and the victim is white...must be some law I'm not aware of. Where's the ACLU and why aren't they defending the students who aren't supporting the protesters? Where is the principal and why doesn't he or she grow a pair? Where is the police chief and why isn't he/she standing up for their officers? The inmates are running the asylum.
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gary • 3 days ago
Taze the little princess and send her backside to jail!
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ImyerGod • 3 days ago
This is all about Black rights to be thugs. BLM 100% supports thugs. Specially when your a race well known as criminals 1 in 3 odds of being in a prison speaks volumes about blacks. Ever watch YouTube videos where blacks of all ages come out in troves to egg on criminals being chased by police. Thousands of videos of the mentality of blacks, racism is a card they pull cause it works when used. What a better way to get your criminal message across and make the law abiding back down.
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Joe McGyver • 3 days ago
Everyone knows that the BLM and NAACP are racist because they support and defend thugs, lies, and criminals.
Sounds like the public schools want in on that racist action too!
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Morality is a hate crime • 3 days ago
the public education system is a failure at preparing kids for reality. they propagandize kids and cause societies problems.
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annie • 3 days ago
As stated below, public school has failed. 20 years of dealing with VA and public school have taught me both institutions will drive sane people crazy and make them think it is their fault. After what my kids went through at public schools, I trust no one at a public school. There is more to this story. We'll likely never hear the back story. This report still enters the story missing a few chapters.
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Allen • 3 days ago
Charter Schools for the win! No more PC/social change in schools. Let culture be culture. We dont pay schools to promote polarlization of the student body.
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yadda1 Allen • 2 days ago
Charter schools can only accommodate 5% of students. How does that help?
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AlexSanders225 • 3 days ago
Was was one student "taken to the school office" and the other allow to go "marching through the halls to the office?"
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thagreatestmanalive • 3 days ago
Enough of the racist Black Lives Matter Smoke Screen. Lets get to the reasons why Black Lives Matter was started in the first place.
"Two school officials tried to stop the girl from going to the office,
but the girl pushed them aside. The officials stayed with her but she
continued." (Black student) would have been tased.
"That’s when two officers got involved but the girl was undeterred. At
one point the officer “tried to control her but she resisted and pulled
away more,” the report states." (Black student) tased again.
This caused both officers to fall to the
ground. (Black student) put in choke hold and tased 4 times already.
"A crowd of students had gathered at that point and were
reportedly yelling and hostile toward police." Wondering why this white student is not getting the same treatment as Blacks.
"The officers told the girl she was under arrest, but she resisted." (Black Student) First shot.
"She kicked at one officer, striking him in the thigh, chest, and
stomach. (Black Student) Second and third Shots.
"The officer was also struck in the face, causing his glasses to
break." (Black Student) Fourth and Fifth shots.
"Eventually, the girl was overpowered and put into handcuffs and
led away from the school." (Black Student) No CPR and dying.
"The police report states that the girl apologized for fighting with the officer once at the police station." Are you kidding? (Black Student) Dead on arrival.
Police report. Black student resisted arrest and deadly force had to be used. Standard department police procedures. CASE CLOSED. Next.
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JimInAuburn thagreatestmanalive • 2 days ago
Uh, the girl you are referring to is BLACK. That is what the whole protest is about. The other black students think that she was somehow unfairly treated by the police.
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Gunnarii thagreatestmanalive • 3 days ago
Can you not comprehend the article ? The arrested/ resisting / attacking student (that was not harmed ) was a black student. CASE CLOSED. Next
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thagreatestmanalive Gunnarii • 3 days ago
I bet you wake every day hoping that Blackness is the root cause of your misery. But sorry Satan.
The freshman and students like her have been called racists ever since.
She was confronted on Wednesday by about 50 students screaming threats
at her.
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roomtemp thagreatestmanalive • 3 days ago
"I bet you wake every day hoping that Blackness is the root cause of your misery. But sorry Satan."
Nah, we have better things to worry about than your melanin content. We'll just flee and collapse your tax base if the misery gets too much. :-P
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thagreatestmanalive roomtemp • 3 days ago
Exactly, that's why you're the living, breathing devil. But glad you admitted it.
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roomtemp thagreatestmanalive • 2 days ago
Ok, so exiting a bad area is totally satanic and my self preservation instinct is the very personification of evil. (I'll assume satanic is bad, unless it's an after school club.) I can accept that.
We'll just hang out and do a little gentrification then!
(still not feeling the love yet am I.)
Ok, left with zero options I must unleash the unstoppable comedic power of several white guys on the dance floor. Surrender or die laughing!
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PoliceLivesMatter roomtemp • 3 days ago
ooooooooooohhhhhhh!
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JimInAuburn thagreatestmanalive • 2 days ago
Do you have that hard of time with reading comprehension? The "freshman" that you are referring to is a girl who did not want to wear black and join the BLM protest. So all the other students called her racist, and threatened her.
The girl that was out of control and removed was not the freshman.
"One student who did not participate was a 14-year-old freshman who said she felt that the Black Lives Matter event at the school was misdirected. She did not want to participate in an event that was a result of an out-of-control student attacking a police officer."
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Gunnarii thagreatestmanalive • 3 days ago
Because she is another student from the school that had nothing to do with fight but did not war a black lies matter attire. You really stink at compression bro.
"One student who did not participate was a 14-year-old freshman who said she felt that the Black Lives Matter event at the school was misdirected. She did not want to participate in an event that was a result of an out-of-control student attacking a police officer. But some of her peers disagree. The freshman and students like her have been called racists ever since. She was confronted on Wednesday by about 50 students screaming threats at her"
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Ed Burggraf • 3 days ago
Isn't Beamer an "alternative" high school (for losers)? Seems like staff would be more in charge than to allow such activity. Those children are just looking for attention (an ANY opportunity to sue law enforcement). Kick the worst of them out, we are wasting our money on them. Some students SHOULD be left behind.
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JimInAuburn Ed Burggraf • 2 days ago
No, it is just a normal school. I think the alternative one is called Truman.
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earlyberd • 3 days ago
"[...] it appeared as if another fight was about to happen [...]"
"[...] officers got involved [...]"
"[...] This caused both officers to fall to the ground. A crowd of students had gathered at that point and were reportedly yelling and hostile toward police. [...]"
"[...] The officers told the girl she was under arrest [...]"
What was the charge for the arrest? Walking into the office? Is that illegal?
The officers seem intent on proving that she wanted to start a fight. Did she give a verbal threat about wanting to start a fight? Did she hit anyone that stood in her way? I don't see any of that in the report. She didn't punch anyone until after the police tried to restrain her, and she punched the officer, not a student or faculty.
But wait a second, the students around this girl were acting hostile toward the police as well. Why were they defending the girl, rather than defending the police?
This story doesn't add up. From an outsider's perspective, it looks like the police utterly failed to keep the situation under control, and made a bad situation worse by intervening.
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No safety earlyberd • 3 days ago
You're joking, right? From the story: "Two school officials tried to stop the girl from going to the office, but the girl pushed them aside. The officials stayed with her but she continued." It seems the SCHOOL officials didn't want this girl to enter the office, yet she pushed them aside. Don't the school officials have the right (the responsibility) to keep someone from an area of the school in order to keep everyone safe? Since the girl couldn't be deterred by the school officials, the police (who were there for an unrelated incident) stepped in to control the situation.
Seems to me she could have been arrested for any number of charges: Assault from the initial fight, trespassing for trying to enter the office after being told (or dissuaded) not to, disorderly conduct or assault against the school official (and more...). Not sure how the police escalated anything. They likely prevented another assault on the student, a different student and other school officials.
You can't excuse a student for pushing her/his way past a school official who tries to prevent her for going into an area of the school they don't her/him going into.
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Islandranger No safety • 3 days ago
Early seems to be pretty late to the party! He doesn't appear to have a clue.
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earlyberd No safety • 3 days ago
There are no precise details given for the fight that occurred in the lunch room. You're assuming that the girl assaulted someone during the lunch room fight, but was it physical or verbal? You can't arrest someone for verbal assault.
The details on the attempted office entry are clear. She pushed school officials out of the way. Police jumped her. She pushed them off as well. Then they arrested her.
But the report still leaves out relevant details, such as the insults that the students were yelling while the police were restraining the girl. It's not a good sign if you're apprehending a perp and the bystanders are telling you to back off. Why would the students be so unsupportive of the police?
Maybe the bystanders were fearful that the arrest could end in the death of the girl. I've seen countless videos of police shooting unarmed perps while bystanders are pleading for them to put the gun down. I've also seen several videos of police brutally assaulting unarmed black students in school. Do you think those might have an effect on students' perception of police?
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No safety earlyberd • 3 days ago
"police jumper her..." hahahaha
"why would the students be so unsupportive of the police?" Take a look in the mirror.
"Maybe the bystanders were fearful that the arrest could end in the death of the girl". Are you for real?
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King Leer No safety • 3 days ago
With a nudge, the asteroid Apophis could end our misery in 2029.
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seattlelogic earlyberd • 3 days ago
"You can't arrest someone for verbal assault."
Yes, you actually can. It is called disorderly conduct.
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Dachman earlyberd • 3 days ago
Police jumped her....really where does it say that. Sounds like you have your conclusion already and are building a narrative around it.
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Jimmy Nguyen earlyberd • 3 days ago
That was funny. "Why would the students be so unsupportive of the police?" Why would certain witnesses give fake witness reports in the Mike Brown Ferguson incident where we have the false narrative of Hands Up Don't Shoot?" Even after the DOJ investigated and found it to be false, people are still shouting Hands Up Don't Shoot.
Cause people are arseholes, that's why. To be fair, cops have unjustifiably shot people since. There will probable have many conflicting stories since there were so many different viewpoints. Hoping they come through this peacefully and give the students a safe place to learn.
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SLinSeattle Jimmy Nguyen • 3 days ago
You mean, "there are rare instances of a micro-minority of police who have unjustifiably shot people...?"
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Jimmy Nguyen SLinSeattle • 3 days ago
Your statement is true. But we know that whether justified or not, the minority communities will still be angered.
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SLinSeattle earlyberd • 3 days ago
"Why would the students be so unsupportive of the police?"
ARE YOU KIDDING?
Because the BLM movement has made every single police officer, or even authority figure, "evil and racist and out-of-line and fascist" by default. THAT'S WHY. They have no other reaction to police presence than to harass and fight and contest it -- because we have spineless government officials and school administrators and even a PRESIDENT who's eager and willing to take the BLM side immediately and claim the police out of line before (and even after) he knows the facts of the case.
NOW YOU KNOW -- and you won't have to ask such stupid questions.
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tatupurules earlyberd • 3 days ago
Verbal Assault = Disorderly Conduct. Go read the law then get back to me. If not just be quiet.
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JimInAuburn earlyberd • 2 days ago
"Why would the students be so unsupportive of the police?"
Maybe because she was black and they were black? Maybe because of the whole anti police atmosphere that the BLM has caused?
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tatupurules earlyberd • 3 days ago
Your attitude is exactly what we are talking about here. I grew up being taught that when a police officer tells you to do something YOU DO IT!! There are legal avenues you can take if the officer was wrong. It is illegal to resist arrest even when the arrest is illegal. And further more you are uninformed about the law. There are plenty of crimes she could be charged with. Obstructing a law enforcement officer and disorderly conduct to start.
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JimInAuburn tatupurules • 2 days ago
And then assault on two police officers when they were trying to arrest her.
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Dachman earlyberd • 3 days ago
The key here is yours is an outsiders perspective. From what I read the police were giving her lots of space but she would not deescalate on her own. Is your expectation that she needs to assault someone before the police try to intervene?
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SLinSeattle Dachman • 3 days ago
And it sounds like she definitely DID assault someone and definitely DID resist arrest. HELLO, EARLYBERD??????
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Dachman SLinSeattle • 3 days ago
You did see I was responding to earlybird right? I did not question whether she assaulted the police my question is do police need to wait for an assault before intervening? HELLO?????
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Maybe you should read the context of a post before getting snarky...try to keep up.
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SLinSeattle Dachman • 3 days ago
I was agreeing with you and "HELLLLLO-ing" Earlyberd. That would explain there being no connection between my mention of the assault and you not even mentioning a specific assault. Maybe you could also "Try to keep up."
I've now edited the above post for more clarity....
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Dachman SLinSeattle • 3 days ago
Ok good we are on the same page.
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AnkleBiter earlyberd • 3 days ago
Sounds like you just want all authority step aside and let all hell break loose. Fine...if black students want to kill each other so be it. Have fun.
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earlyberd AnkleBiter • 3 days ago
I grew up in the Puget Sound area. When fights occurred at my schools, the faculty and administrators were responsible for breaking them up, not the police. The police only showed up for drug busts and issuing speeding tickets after school.
There's no need for the police to intervene unless the student has a weapon. They were at the school investigating an unrelated issue and should have stuck to that, but instead they wanted to be conflict mediators for the whole school, and now an officer has a black eye and the students are even more agitated.
This is bad police work, and your usage of a slippery slope fallacy is not going to change that.
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seattlelogic earlyberd • 3 days ago
What a ridiculous statement. You think the police should just walk away and let the administration handle a conflict like this?
Perhaps when you went to school there were no police in the school because there were no guns in the schools and the teachers were not afraid of their students. I know that was the case in my school. We never saw the police.
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No safety earlyberd • 3 days ago
"There's no need for the police to intervene unless the student has a weapon." Wow....just wow. You're not serious, are you?
This student has already been in a fight, then pushed by school officials. What's to stop her from entering the office and stomping the other person into oblivion? Well, she didn't have a weapon, so it's ok? SMH in disgust...
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earlyberd No safety • 3 days ago
I'm dead serious. The girl that got arrested was 14 years old, just a kid.
What kind of lame police officer is afraid of a 14 year old?
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No safety earlyberd • 3 days ago
You're not paying attention to many recent incidents involving some of these little teenage cherubs, are you? Time to wake the heck up, earlyberd.
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SLinSeattle No safety • 3 days ago
No schidt!
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cupofjoe earlyberd • 3 days ago
An assault is an assault. Has nothing to do with police being "afraid" of a 14 year old. That's a juvenile position to take if you're serious. If a student is attacking a teacher, can police then intervene? Maybe the PTA can step in.
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earlyberd cupofjoe • 3 days ago
You must be joking. The police are very fearful of the community right now, that's why they shoot first and ask questions later.
"We don't acknowledge fear very much in police work, but it's a reality, and we need to do a much better job I think of conditioning officers to deal with their own fears." -Norm Stamper, ex SPD chief
http://kuow.Org/post/police-must-control-their-fear-says-former-seattle-police-chief
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cupofjoe earlyberd • 3 days ago
Holy crap Erly. You posted a link that essentially says that police, like other humans, experience fear. No S*&t Sherlock! But that is out of context for the topic being discussed. Based on the article, and live witness accounts that I heard on the radio. The police used the right amount of force, and more importantly, the right amount of constraint to deal with this out of control delinquent.
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earlyberd cupofjoe • 3 days ago
Wow, you didn't even read the article, you're just spouting from confirmation bias.
The problem is stated clearly:
"[...] the lack of de-escalation skills [...]"
The officers responded to being pushed by arresting the girl. That's not an example of de-escalation. Their response made her more agitated and she started throwing punches, escalating the situation.
THIS is how you de-escalate:
http://www.telegraph.Co.Uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11561516/Off-duty-Swedish-police-break-up-brawl-on-New-York-subway.html
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JimInAuburn earlyberd • 2 days ago
Uh yeah. They took the guys to ground and controlled them. When the officers tried to control her, she pushed them, making them fall to the ground, so then they tried again to detain and control her and she started punching and kicking them.
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Dachman earlyberd • 3 days ago
Do you go to school there or are you on staff?
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SLinSeattle earlyberd • 3 days ago
"That's why they shoot first and ask questions later."
You couldn't possibly sound like more of a moron.
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Dachman earlyberd • 3 days ago
So she is violent with another student then staff...what should be done?
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King Leer earlyberd • 3 days ago
There is no evident bias in police shootings.
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JimInAuburn earlyberd • 2 days ago
One that knocked both police officers to the ground. One that repeatedly kicked one officers and punched the other breaking their glasses....
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Xi Whang earlyberd • 3 days ago
14 year olds beat people to death with their bare hands all the time.
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SLinSeattle earlyberd • 3 days ago
Who said anything about "being afraid?" He was apparently DOING HIS JOB and protecting others. Seriously????
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seattlelogic earlyberd • 3 days ago
Do you have a 14 year old? I would be afraid to get into a physical altercation with my 14 year old.
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Dachman earlyberd • 3 days ago
So what is your solution just let her keep going and committing violence? If you are school staff are you going to try to stop her and get assaulted, oh right that already happened. So is it your stance that no matter what a 14 year old is doing the police should not get involved?
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SLinSeattle earlyberd • 3 days ago
I'll leave it to the police, not you, to decide when and if they intervene, thank you.
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Jimmy Nguyen earlyberd • 3 days ago
It has to be tough to be a school teacher. I wonder if I would be afraid to intervene. I recall one of my teachers telling me, at a private Catholic School, that she would break up an fight between boys cause they wouldn't hit her but would not intervene in a fight between girls.
Would it be okay for a male/female teacher to physically restrain the student if they do not respond to verbal commands? I do not know the answer.
This also reminds me of the Seattle bus tunnel incident where a group of girls jumped one girl. The security guard could not physically intervene so he called the police and they had to change the rules on what private security was allowed to do during physical altercations.
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AnkleBiter earlyberd • 3 days ago
Yeah..I did too and we didn't have the bloods and crypts going at it in the school hallways in the 70's like we do now. But by all means let the school officials handle the problem first and if the gang bangers kill them off then the police can get involved. That sound OK to you?
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JimInAuburn earlyberd • 2 days ago
She assaulted two school officials. She had committed a crime. The police had every right to intervene.
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SLinSeattle earlyberd • 3 days ago
PLEASE get a clue.
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JimInAuburn earlyberd • 2 days ago
Really? Simple story. Two girls get in a fight. Officials separate them and take one to the office. The other one instead of staying separated makes a b-line for the office. School officials try to stop her but are pushed aside. Police try to stop her but she knocks them to the ground. When they try to detain her, she kicks one repeatedly and punches the other one breaking their glasses.
And you are on the side of the girl?
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gary earlyberd • 3 days ago
you do understand that their hands are severly tied by school administration policies do you not. Plus with the current environment fostered by all of the different groups had they treated the princess like they should have, well more than likely Armageddon would have ensued.
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carlson- everyone else is a coward and bully only two good people - ellie and black student who offered protection
where is the tv media?
black
withdrawing from the district
fire drill 15 min
told to be quiet
3 hrs lost insstruction t
was surrounded by a mob threatening her after she complaned at school board
told to stay at home the rest of the week
trouble making girl was part of the mob
lets have a blackout day tomorrow
supervisor was on scene and also helped when she spit in their faces,
officer no longer works there. - no longer compatible.. no records of previous problems
Teachers are telling students to wear black
its student led .. but teachers were
principal was one of those assaulted day before
ellie may decided somebody has to take a stand, everybody else was too scared to speak out